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RE: 7 gun 2.00 loadouts - coming changes - Kanzler Niemann - 03-06-2020
(03-06-2020, 11:14 PM)Durandal Wrote: Well, they weren't, but the reason this came up now:
(03-06-2020, 11:04 PM)Durandal Wrote: Anyway this whole thing happened because @Omicron and @Reeves decided to make some fun accusations about me being biased against the Xenos and Order for something I said two years ago about how XA- Nephs with Judgements and Black Widows roaming around Liberty would be overpowered, so the Neph would need to lose a gun if the Xenos were allowed to have them.
Since that is actually a double standard as the Sabre has gotten its 11.4k core back and a few people are flying full 2.00 Liches and Lhotses, this is the fair thing to do. And if this change were to happen tomorrow, I generally feel that nobody would notice and that the Earth would keep on spinning. I genuinely don't know why I work on this game sometimes. I've tried to be kind, informative, and patient in this thread. I'm supposed to be upscaling the Irezumi, Iris, adding Auxesia's guns to the game, and making a big, exciting balance post about changes to the BHG/Core shiplines. But, that isn't how I spent my day. Instead, I spent it here.
Maybe you should work on the things you pointed out instead of doing a 2.0 rework? I also haven't seen a full 2.00 Lich or Lhotse or even a Sabre so far, where are those people and who are they?
RE: 7 gun 2.00 loadouts - coming changes - Shiki - 03-06-2020
7-gunners such as nephthys and lhotse are problematic. no one denies that.
2.0's seem to be fine, if they were OP they would get used everywhere. i barely see people using them.
RE: 7 gun 2.00 loadouts - coming changes - Omicron - 03-06-2020
(03-06-2020, 11:19 PM)LV-426 Wrote: Maybe you should work on the things you pointed out instead of doing a 2.0 rework? I also haven't seen a full 2.00 Lich or Lhotse or even a Sabre so far, where are those people and who are they?
Taking words straight out of my mouth.
RE: 7 gun 2.00 loadouts - coming changes - Durandal - 03-06-2020
So it'll affect no one if this change is made.
RE: 7 gun 2.00 loadouts - coming changes - Kanzler Niemann - 03-06-2020
(03-06-2020, 11:24 PM)Durandal Wrote: So it'll affect no one if this change is made.
Why do we need this change if it does not affect anyone?
RE: 7 gun 2.00 loadouts - coming changes - Omicron - 03-06-2020
Why are we diverting crucial unpaid development time to focus on this crap?
RE: 7 gun 2.00 loadouts - coming changes - Durandal - 03-06-2020
(03-06-2020, 11:26 PM)LV-426 Wrote: Why do we need this change if it does not affect anyone?
Go Ask, Omicron and Reeves, they say I'm biased against their factions if this doesn't happen.
Really though, not to detract from the points I raised in the OP. 7x 2.00 VHFs with the lone exception of the Nephthys were an unintended side effect of tech sharing changes over the years. If you had told Lohengrin people would be using 2.00s on the Lich or Haste that full Firekiss Lhotses would become a thing, I'm pretty sure they would have had second thoughts.
RE: 7 gun 2.00 loadouts - coming changes - Omicron - 03-06-2020
So you specifically want to sabotage Order-Xenos relations. Petty.
RE: 7 gun 2.00 loadouts - coming changes - Kanzler Niemann - 03-06-2020
(03-06-2020, 11:27 PM)Durandal Wrote: Go Ask, Omicron and Reeves, they say I'm biased against their factions if this doesn't happen.
How does a 2.00 change affect their factions? Xenos got barely ANY development in the past few years, same as the Order| or anyone else in the Omicrons besides Core|.
RE: 7 gun 2.00 loadouts - coming changes - Wesker - 03-06-2020
It wont affect anyone at all. Every balance change you’ve come to me about ignores the main issue. I have no problem talking to you as a person or recommending balance changes - but your avoiding the real issues in snub balance resembles a military command ignoring the main issues on base and resorting to micro management of things that don’t matter as much.
Now patch the server please.