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Removed - Guest - 09-11-2009
Nighthawk, just looking at the stats, I would say the Fafnir is more overpowered than the bomber.
Sure it has only 2 guns but thats enough to wipe out someone's shields in a single pass with Debilitators.
It has the largest powerplant of any bomber, even the other Heavy Bombers. Atleast 3,500 capacity and 300 regen More than the Barghest.
It has better turning as the Fafnir has 0.8713 Turning Speed while Barghest has 0.8667 Turning Speed.
It has 2000 more armor, and holds 10 more bots/bats compared to the Barghest.
But look at its size, and those stats are about 1/4 as useful as they were before. Can it solo a battlecruiser? I'm not sure. I have one but its been a long time since i last flew a bomber.
I do know my GRN Cougar has solo'ed a Battlecruiser
In addition to soloing 2 gunboats + a cruiser aside from being metagamed by a nearby Trader who F1ed to get on his Council Fighter and engage me, not giving any kind of RP as he opened fire... But thats being handled as he has now become a very special target.
Removed - Birdtalon - 09-11-2009
Wow you must be angry at alot of things to rant so much
Removed - tansytansey - 09-11-2009
' Wrote:Nighthawk, just looking at the stats, I would say the Fafnir is more overpowered than the bomber.His point was, he doesn't think pirates should have better-than-military grade equipment.
Removed - Ayem - 09-11-2009
' Wrote:From his post, I'd say he's q_q'ing about the Barghest. If you look at it's stats and only it's stats, it is overpowered. But then you look at it's size and turning... and it's more balanced. But the thing can solo a Battlecruiser, you couldn't say that about a Falcata.
That's true, I couldn't solo the two CR Battlecruisers in Tau-23 yesterday. But then, they couldn't even hit me. So meh. Barghest is a brick. People who aren't able to kill it with fighters are -doing it wrong-. Ask the baf for tips. Less joust, more lateral/vertical strafe. (I'll edit this if someone wants to preserve their Barghest domination of New York).
First: Mollies joining LR.
Ye-No. No. We might share technology (technology I thought was a general pirate thing, rather than some specific Rogue/Molly venture) but our goals and ideology do not mesh. Seriously, what do the Rogues care about a freeing Dublin? What do the Mollies care about anything outside Bretonia?
Bringing these two factions together and placing them under one leadership won't make them more appealing to anyone.
Second: Outcasts, families, how many there are.
How many families live on your street?
How many families live on your planet?
Besides, half my "Outcast" ships are flown by trained war slaves. I is righteous, k? Love to all my slave peeps in the house.
Third: Kusari, is empty?
It isn't, there are quite a few there, be they traders, pirates, KNF or KSP. You can't always tell from the name, because we aren't always advertising.
Fourth: Pirate Battleships
Stop looking at datastorm and making assumptions. I have -never- seen a Blood Dragon Battleship. Also the infocard states the Togo class is contemporary to the Blood Dragon's original rebellion, with updates and repairs changing them as time went on. They already -had- them. Keep up.
Molly/Rogues have Destroyers, almost never seen. They tend to get blobbed.
Fifth: The Liberty Navy is a -Navy-. They don't just hand out ships, it is the result of promotion after a term of service. Less meta-gaming on your side and more sympathy to them would be nice. That guy didn't powertrade for months and buy it, he is a Naval Captain, Commodore, Admiral. To suggest it was just handed out is a sign of disrespect to his position, his rank, his endeavours to place him in that chair. When was the last time you insulted a military officer to his face? Yeh, I thought not. Is not wise, kay?
Sixth: Corsairs in Bretonia.
They go through the Omegas. It's fine. Leave them alone.
Seventh: Rheinland has trade routes running through the Sigmas to Kusari and the Omegas to Bretonia, why do they need to trade with a House hostile to them? Why relax an embargo that is used to -discourage- Liberty's trade? They blow you up because you bring economic support to Liberty. Why not just avoid Liberty as a trader? You might meet fewer Barghests!
I think I'll stop here.
Removed - Aoyagi - 09-11-2009
Umm... HELLO!!! GAIANS???
*unleashes furious flame*
...
*clams down*
Also, bretonia doesn't have that much of MOX any more, since I do not allow anyone to trade with LD-14
Removed - Thor22 - 09-11-2009
I think that the server and forums should just be closed down completely.
Then we could all just join the J4F server, have Eagles with 2x Tizonia, 2x Nomad Cannons and 2x Nomad Blasters!
Everyone would be happy, the only thing to complain about would be Teschy's beta-testing skills (or lack thereof).
As for the rant part about Outcasts written in that very fetching purple, there is group dedicated to investigating and disrupting Cryer's 'activities', devised by our very own Wee Cleric.
Removed - Shagohad - 09-11-2009
I have to agree with the embargo bit. Wouldn't Rheinland welcome imports? Wouldn't the Navy want to stop exports? That's the point of smuggling: To illegally get goods to your allies. We have this embargo thing turned around. They should stop exports, but allow imports. Not stop both.
Removed - .:Mongoose:. - 09-11-2009
' Wrote:I have to agree with the embargo bit. Wouldn't Rheinland welcome imports? Wouldn't the Navy want to stop exports? That's the point of smuggling: To illegally get goods to your allies. We have this embargo thing turned around. They should stop exports, but allow imports. Not stop both.
But if you are importing from Rheinland you have lined thier pockets with credits buying the goods and thus funding the Rheinalnd War machine
Thats my take on it
Removed - schlurbi - 09-11-2009
Quote:Liberty Rogues
Rant
The LR, ah my most annoyed at faction, they are a pirate faction, sort of the petty criminals, those sort of moderately bad people. Those sorts of criminals are NOT supposed to have bombers that are better than military grade, Cruisers, Gunboats and a whole line of fighters. That is just ridiculous. Why are the liberty rogues ships better than what is available to the police? The police ships pale in comparison, the only force capable of taking on the LR is the Liberty Navy. And if they are so closely allied with the Mollys shouldnt they have melded by now to give them both access to a wider range of materials? I mean they use the same ships.
Summary of my issues with the faction
Way too overpowered, do minor criminals really need to have a cruiser?
Why are they not melded with the Mollys?
Why are the civilian and Navy bombers not as good as the minor criminal, make do with what you got bomber?
Possible solutions to the problems
Tone the thing down, I mean, if you fuse the LR and the Mollys then you would have another powerful pirate faction and Bretonia would get more usage from players. This would also justify the LR having a destroyer
This needs to happen, they share ships, they are best buddies, they do loads of things together. It would make more sense for the LR and Mollys to combine so that there would be more players in Bretonia and the fact that the Mollys and LR would have a bigger effective range of ships.
Seriously, beef up the Civvy and Navy bombers so that they are on par of better than the LR bombers, the Navy has all the resources of a house and they still cant do better than the out-of-pocket criminals?
Rogues are Liberty's biggest Group of Pirates. I agree that we shouldnt have a Cruiser. But the Barghest is good as it is. Why shouldnt we have a good Bomber? Mollys and Rogues are working together on a strong Ship. Maybe take Shipbuilders as Hostages to design it. No idea, but together they would even get a Battleship. And how pay such work as for a Bomber? Gold. And use the Materials stolen from the Corporations. They are just random Idiots. But its a huge bunch of them.
Removed - Guest - 09-11-2009
' Wrote:I have to agree with the embargo bit. Wouldn't Rheinland welcome imports? Wouldn't the Navy want to stop exports? That's the point of smuggling: To illegally get goods to your allies. We have this embargo thing turned around. They should stop exports, but allow imports. Not stop both.
1 word, sabotage.
Example: Military Vehicles being imported into Liberty from Rheinland, or from Liberty to Rheinland, have that risk of being tampered with as opposed to Military Vehicles being shipped in-house.
Its inRP Cautiousness.