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Thoughts on battleships - ghostcat - 09-26-2007
Can someone explain how the bombers got nerfed? They were acting the same when I (briefly) tested them. I do like how the Novas became impossible for fighters to use though. In fact, I think a bomber can use massive amounts of shield busters with little consequence now.
Thoughts on battleships - bluntpencil2001 - 09-26-2007
Well, a bomber can't fire two Novas at once, and the Supernova is rubbish.
Fighters not using Novas is nice though.
Thoughts on battleships - alance - 09-26-2007
' Wrote:As things advance technologically, they miniaturise, not increase in size.I really hate the aircraft nuking a ship comparison. FL works better with an all-navy model where bombers = torpedo boats and fighters = light patrol craft. Aircraft vs Shipping brings too dissimilar craft together to be useful as a comparison.
As far back as WW2, a single plane could drop a bomb that would level a city... why shouldn't a single bomber be able to take on a Battleship here?
Why should a single bomber have serious trouble wiith a BS? Because bombers are cheap and BS are not. Sure, you're right that today a single aircraft could nuke a ship, but that doesn't make a fun space combat game. I understand the paper-scissors-rock concept of fighter-bomber-capship, but I think it is a serious stretch to see the ultimate capship killed (barriong serious luck) by a ship that costs only a fraction of its price.
I'm not foamy a the mouth about this, just my preference.
Thoughts on battleships - bluntpencil2001 - 09-26-2007
More expesive doesn't mean better though.
Scissors cost more than paper and paper costs more than a rock.
Thoughts on battleships - Quigs - 09-26-2007
' Wrote:paper costs more than a rock.You're never going to get her to say "yes" with spending habits like that.
CP
Thoughts on battleships - pipsqueak - 09-26-2007
Reiterating the point. No matter what every one says about the the weakness of one Item and the over whelming power of the other, the truth of the matter is, Bombers have not stopped the purchases of Battleships through out Sirius.
You really want to see what is effective ? see what people are flying. Frankly put a well equiped OC dreadnaught against a bomber and place bets on who is going to win. I am willing to place bets on a OC dreadnaught. Wanna try the same with a BS against a Bomber ? sigh lets make it two bombers... .BS still has a good chance to win.
Battle ships are massive weapon platforms. That can kill anything (if flown by a skilled pilot). I just wanna make sure Battle ships dont become Get out of trouble free cards for inferior pilots. I mean if there are supposed to be checks and balances ? where is the balance? Next time count how many nova hits it requires to bring down a battleship shield. Then say how dangerous it is to fly in a battleship. Peace.
Thoughts on battleships - Razr - 09-26-2007
' Wrote:Reiterating the point. No matter what every one says about the the weakness of one Item and the over whelming power of the other, the truth of the matter is, Bombers have not stopped the purchases of Battleships through out Sirius.
You really want to see what is effective ? see what people are flying. Frankly put a well equiped OC dreadnaught against a bomber and place bets on who is going to win. I am willing to place bets on a OC dreadnaught. Wanna try the same with a BS against a Bomber ? sigh lets make it two bombers... .BS still has a good chance to win.
Battle ships are massive weapon platforms. That can kill anything (if flown by a skilled pilot). I just wanna make sure Battle ships dont become Get out of trouble free cards for inferior pilots. I mean if there are supposed to be checks and balances ? where is the balance? Next time count how many nova hits it requires to bring down a battleship shield. Then say how dangerous it is to fly in a battleship. Peace.
Dude with the time it'll take to regain your energy from firing one nova the shield will be back same for refire rate if you use torps, bombers will be obselete BATTLESHIP SPAM IT IS!
Thoughts on battleships - Drake - 09-26-2007
' Wrote:Dude with the time it'll take to regain your energy from firing one nova the shield will be back same for refire rate if you use torps, bombers will be obselete BATTLESHIP SPAM IT IS!
And that's the best reason to give battleships and cruisers very minor shields, but veryheavy armor. Even if nothing else was done to improve or restrict them, I think that it would help. Can't really be sure without testing it out in PvP.
Thoughts on battleships - mohr - 09-26-2007
' Wrote:And that's the best reason to give battleships and cruisers very minor shields, but veryheavy armor. Even if nothing else was done to improve or restrict them, I think that it would help. Can't really be sure without testing it out in PvP.
Well, the recharge rate being a problem will be solved by reducing shield strength, but it won't really be more expensive to maintain the nattleships. The reason is that you can just suicide to repair. Er, maybe not the right thing to bring into the discussion...
Well I like the idea of reducing shield strength and uping the armor on big ships. Just feels right flavor-wise. As for the bombers, haven't really looked at the new versions of them. It is only a beta, so changes are probably going to be made on them... Oh, the price of the average bomber has jumped, but it's still insignificant to the cost of a battleship.
Mohr
Thoughts on battleships - pipsqueak - 09-26-2007
If recharce is kept around that of a transport, I dont care how much the shield capacity and hull capacity is.