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Do you want the returne of the Solar System? - Altaris - 07-28-2011
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You seem to not realize difference between Vanilla and Discovery... Discovery is RP, story that is still going from somewhere to somewhere. Igiss is waging his story crusade long enough, so i doubt he will sudenly change his mind and claim that sol still exists. If you prefer to look at normal intro, i dont mind. But you better accept the fact that Igiss destroyed Sol if not extended video...
Do you want the returne of the Solar System? - Luka - 07-28-2011
' Wrote:You seem to not realize difference between Vanilla and Discovery... Discovery is RP, story that is still going from somewhere to somewhere. Igiss is waging his story crusade long enough, so i doubt he will sudenly change his mind and claim that sol still exists. If you prefer to look at normal intro, i dont mind. But you better accept the fact that Igiss destroyed Sol if not extended video...
in the intro, the only things I've seen destroyed were mars and jupitar and it's moons, but not a single glance of what happened after.... it's just too subtle
Do you want the returne of the Solar System? - Luka - 07-28-2011
also, as I read in the wiki:
On an interesting note, rumors in certain quarters of Malta speak of three other sleeper ships being constructed by the Alliance. The truth of these rumors is unknown, as is the identity of the supposed three other ships. If said ships did exist, they were presumably destroyed along with Sol or launched at a different date and/or location to the known five.
maybe has anything to do with a possible solar system
Do you want the returne of the Solar System? - Marburg - 07-28-2011
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if y'all wanna discuss 'what-if's" that's perfectly fine. If anyone wants to troll, that's not fine & I will eat your souls for it.
Common courtesy people, effn' learn the concept please.
Do you want the returne of the Solar System? - Klaw117 - 07-28-2011
' Wrote:also, as I read in the wiki:This was already accounted for. The Gallia was one of the other three sleeper ships. The other two were owned by Italy and Australia, but they, and the first French sleeper ship, were destroyed by the Coalition. The Italian and Australian sleeper ships transfered their colonists to the Hispania and the Bretonia (or built their own, if you follow the Broken Bonds mod) while the French built the second Gallia.
On an interesting note, rumors in certain quarters of Malta speak of three other sleeper ships being constructed by the Alliance. The truth of these rumors is unknown, as is the identity of the supposed three other ships. If said ships did exist, they were presumably destroyed along with Sol or launched at a different date and/or location to the known five.
maybe has anything to do with a possible solar system
Also, if Planet Mars and Planet Jupiter were destroyed, then Planet Earth was most definitely destroyed as well. The closer you were to Sol's flash, the more damage you took. Planet Earth is closer than either of these two planets. If they were destroyed, Planet Earth is as well.
Do you want the returne of the Solar System? - Linkus - 07-28-2011
' Wrote:Unless you have inflation like we hypothesize occurred right after the big bang, no imaginable explosion could scatter the mass of the entire system. You might rip apart planets and distribute the matter, but it's still a clump. If you want to insult my knowledge of physics while tooting your own horn, show me an integral or STFU.
The solar system is in a pretty fine balance. Deviations from said balance cause problems for the planets.
If the sun suddenly had far less mass, the planets would fly off into space.
That's simply because the planets are in their current orbit due to their current speed in relation to the gravitational force the sun is providing.
If that gravitational force changed, their orbits would change.
Less force but same speed = loss of orbit (Eventually)
Do you want the returne of the Solar System? - Luka - 07-28-2011
' Wrote:Also, if Planet Mars and Planet Jupiter were destroyed, then Planet Earth was most definitely destroyed as well. The closer you were to Sol's flash, the more damage you took. Planet Earth is closer than either of these two planets. If they were destroyed, Planet Earth is as well.
...In a natural event, if Sol got destroyed, Earth's the special case there, it's the only habitable planet, and in the case DK did it, like I said before, they would rather conquer Earth than kill everybody, it's justificable to blow up jupiter and the rest, for destroying the human fleets in a "clean up" way and preventing a guerrilla warfare, which is HORRENDOUSLY damaging.
Do you want the returne of the Solar System? - Altaris - 07-28-2011
I dont get why you still think that DK destroyed it. DK is an ancient race, they could've dissapeared even before we were just a monkeys... Destruction of Sol is pure Nomad work.
Do you want the returne of the Solar System? - Luka - 07-28-2011
' Wrote:I dont get why you still think that DK destroyed it. DK is an ancient race, they could've dissapeared even before we were just a monkeys... Destruction of Sol is pure Nomad work.
nomads were in a popsicle, they coulnd't have done that, and DK just left, never heard of them going extinct, they would have left Sirius to see how nomads played around,but then they found Earth, though it was a Park, captured it and who knows how much they would be playing with Earth like a kitten with his yarn ball,
Do you want the returne of the Solar System? - Hielor - 07-28-2011
' Wrote:Unless you have inflation like we hypothesize occurred right after the big bang, no imaginable explosion could scatter the mass of the entire system. You might rip apart planets and distribute the matter, but it's still a clump. If you want to insult my knowledge of physics while tooting your own horn, show me an integral or STFU.Have you not seen the extended intro?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsWPFUzxgRU
The fun part starts at about 5:00.
Given the rather extreme velocity at which chunks are being removed from those planets, and considering the tiny fraction of the energy of the explosion that would arrive at Jupiter from the Sun (considering the energy distribution over the surface area of a sphere of radius equal to Jupiter's orbit) I have no doubt that explosion could scatter the mass of the entire system.
I don't see how an integral would help, but we can do some initial guesstimating based on the content of the video. From 5:24 to 5:26, a plume grows from the "surface" of Jupiter to a length approximately a third the diameter of the planet, a distance of about 47000km, for a speed of at least 23500km/s, and it's most likely higher than that given that the plume doesn't start growing until well past the 5:24 mark (but youtube doesn't let you move in increments smaller than a second).
The approximate escape velocity from the solar system at Jupiter's orbital radius, assuming an intact sun at the center (or, at the very least, the mass of the sun being within Jupiter's orbital radius--no longer a valid assumption given the amount of material we see passing Jupiter), is about 19km/s, fully three orders of magnitude less than the approximate observed velocity of the ejecta from Jupiter.
So yes, I feel pretty safe saying that the contents of the solar system will be pretty well scattered after the event depicted in the extended intro.