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The Westfalen Problem - Jeremy Hunter - 09-01-2011
' Wrote:Ridicoulous, actually and from what I can think of; if player actions would dictate lore, Liberty would go *poof*
Tell that to our successfull defense actions and raids.
Its been a tipping scale, with wins and losses.
Not bad enough Libterty goes boom. Rheinland has AGS, RHA, VF, and SCRA. AGS.. Erm...anyways. RHA (Red Hessians) are some of the biggest criminal organizations. VF are the Bundshuh elite for a reason. SCRA? InRP a few of our snubs can decimate a battlegroup (I think).
LIBERTY: XA, LR, LH, and hey, not many of those around with 564695 caps except the HF!. XA are somewhat elite, LR are pirates who run, and LH dont actively engage.
Liberty: HF and thier Ransuer, Osiris, Storta, Scylla, Spyglasses, etc.
Rheinland: RHA and thier Vidars, VF and thier Broccolli knights, and SCRA and our two Ossies and five Typhoons, all of which are deployed with ample support, PLUS our lovely Storms.
Rheinland is more screwed.
edit: Oops. Add the RF and thier 4 Zephyrs and other Vidars and RPCs.
The Westfalen Problem - Ipuvaepe - 09-01-2011
the westfalen problem...
<div align="right]... is not a problem
The Westfalen Problem - Daedric - 09-01-2011
' Wrote:Ridicoulous, actually and from what I can think of; if player actions would dictate lore, Liberty would go *poof*
That is why player actions don't dictate lore. If they did, many factions would be dead and gone and the houses wouldn't exist.
The Westfalen Problem - Dane Summers - 09-01-2011
No one on this mod ever takes lore into account, and certainly not when its convenient for them to forget. I can reference the Zoner\Corsair food issue.
as for the Westfallen, again, deal with it. Dont get mad at the Admins - get mad at the people who started the Omega war in the first place.
The Westfalen Problem - Cap.Kennedy - 09-01-2011
' Wrote:Tell that to our successfull defense actions and raids.
Its been a tipping scale, with wins and losses.
Not bad enough Libterty goes boom. Rheinland has AGS, RHA, VF, and SCRA. AGS.. Erm...anyways. RHA (Red Hessians) are some of the biggest criminal organizations. VF are the Bundshuh elite for a reason. SCRA? InRP a few of our snubs can decimate a battlegroup (I think).
LIBERTY: XA, LR, LH, and hey, not many of those around with 564695 caps except the HF!. XA are somewhat elite, LR are pirates who run, and LH dont actively engage.
Liberty: HF and thier Ransuer, Osiris, Storta, Scylla, Spyglasses, etc.
Rheinland: RHA and thier Vidars, VF and thier Broccolli knights, and SCRA and our two Ossies and five Typhoons, all of which are deployed with ample support, PLUS our lovely Storms.
Rheinland is more screwed.
edit: Oops. Add the RF and thier 4 Zephyrs and other Vidars and RPCs.
Then why do you keep raiding Cali and Texas, would you not be better cleaning yer front lawn first.
The Westfalen Problem - jammi - 09-02-2011
' Wrote:Ridicoulous, actually and from what I can think of; if player actions would dictate lore, Liberty would go *poof*Well, if you consider actual lore... Lets look at the green House's situation at the end of the SP campaign:
1) Rheinland is up to its balls in debt.
2) Has sold numerous planets to corporations in an attempt to finance itself - Stuttgart, Holstein, Nuremberg, Hamburg (to an extent); seriously, they're worse than Liberty for corporate shenanigans.
3) Military pilots defect to/double-shift as corporations because the RM defaults on their wages.
4) Their core mining grounds have been totally depleted, preventing them from reconstructing their fleet.
5) The Nomad War leaves them with one broken battleship, the Westfalen.
6) Liberty invaded Rheinland at the end of the SP campaign. The Libertonian fleet was occupying New Berlin's orbit within 24 hours of mobilising. Bear in mind, this was against the largest Rheinlandic fleet in history, which had just wiped out the Kusari fleet with minimal effort.
Rheinland can't claim to be beating Liberty in any sense of the word outside of player actions. Still, just as well for the RM and other Rheinlandic factions that Igiss thinks logical lore is too much effort, ey? :D2) Has sold numerous planets to corporations in an attempt to finance itself - Stuttgart, Holstein, Nuremberg, Hamburg (to an extent); seriously, they're worse than Liberty for corporate shenanigans.
3) Military pilots defect to/double-shift as corporations because the RM defaults on their wages.
4) Their core mining grounds have been totally depleted, preventing them from reconstructing their fleet.
5) The Nomad War leaves them with one broken battleship, the Westfalen.
6) Liberty invaded Rheinland at the end of the SP campaign. The Libertonian fleet was occupying New Berlin's orbit within 24 hours of mobilising. Bear in mind, this was against the largest Rheinlandic fleet in history, which had just wiped out the Kusari fleet with minimal effort.
In any case, Nova sellpoints should be added at the very least. Setting up new characters isn't overly important compared to being able to use the ones you already have.
The Westfalen Problem - AeternusDoleo - 09-02-2011
' Wrote:I've heard a rumor about Mjolnir sell point being moved to Elbe station, Halle. Ofcourse, just a rumor.Confirmed. But that's for 4.86, so it's a little ways off yet.
[Edit] And are we talking about Nova ammo, or SNAC/Nova launchers?
The Westfalen Problem - Anonymous User - 09-02-2011
thank da leadership.
you lost it because rheinland (and bretonia) thought it is a good idea to fight in the omegas while they're in RP already loosing slowly (aye - liberty is inRP much more powerfull than rheinland).
If you wannit back fight for it.
honest opinion - no trolling
The Westfalen Problem - mef - 09-02-2011
' Wrote:So let me get this right, this thread is/has turned into a "Q_Q RHINELAND NO CAN LOZE BATTLESHEEP AND STOOF ON IT!" Thread?
Seems like it.
Westfallen was captured, along with all the stuff on it, Rheinland no can haz, deal with it.
Oh, like you deal with other issues that you have? HYPOCRITE!
Don't lecture others if you are in the same boat!
The Westfalen Problem - rwx - 09-02-2011
' Wrote:So let me get this right, this thread is/has turned into a "Q_Q RHINELAND NO CAN LOZE BATTLESHEEP AND STOOF ON IT!" Thread?
Seems like it.
Westfallen was captured, along with all the stuff on it, Rheinland no can haz, deal with it.
For the record:
' Wrote:' Wrote:Did someone say LN Mjolnirs?
DId someone say the LN Cant use RM tech? Same with Kusari? Oh yea, we did.