' Wrote:I beileve the problem was with the 101st's tendancy to pew pew those caps.

' Wrote:Aren't the corsairs doing exactly the same?

' Wrote:Nope!

' Wrote:As stated in the Corsair Laws declaration of 817A.S. The Council reserves the right, upon conviction, to punish offenders with sanctions which include but are not limited to;

• Financial penalties.
  
  
• Punitive destruction of property and ships
  
  
• Punitive confiscation of property and ships
  
  
• Incarceration
  
  
• Torture
  
  
• Execution
  
  
• Deportation to the custody of allies
  
  
• Exile from Corsair territory.
  

[...]

Exiled from Corsair Territory:
[color=black](KOS if in Corsair territory)

• Name: [offense]
  
• Ratni Brod [Refusal to pay fines]
  
• Stephen [Refusal to pay fines]
  
• sandstorm [Refusal to pay fines]
  
• Diablo [Refusal to pay fines]
  
• Black.Flag [Refusal to pay fines]
  

To be Executed:
[color=black](Hunt, Bounty and KOS)

• Name [offense]
  
• Dustin.Ledman (freelancer) [Attack on Empire / Kidnap]
  
• All ships bearing the name "Ghost Ship" [Violations of numerous laws / assault on an Elder]
  

Quote:-Still no damn stationed dreadnought which makes me so upset and annoyed, i mean, a battleship like Prox is enough, i love its lore and story and such.
-Ranseurs is useless, junk, its beauty is what attracts people only, no more possible to box with it.

' Wrote:then elaborate on this one please:
To my knowledge several of those were corsairs. Basically the 101st didn't have a "pay a fine and we might let you live"-instance, but apart from that it seems the same.

' Wrote:I have nothing of value to add

' Wrote:Legates/Osiris that shot at Corsairs and/or refuse to leave fights when told resulting in them "team killing"
101st just shot at caps for going places that are with-in their ZoI, but perhaps a cap shouldn't be. Also you didn't make to many people happy trying to FR5 people for shooting Bretonians

' Wrote:This thread is epic :cool:

However I can't blame that serious people have avoided to get involved with Outcasts. The only thing which fed the Outcasts the last year was the Taus and their interaction with Colonial Remnants has only downgraded the quality of OC players. What is happening now after the departure of CR is inevitable. In my opinion, it is good to have the OC dead for a small time in order to be resurrected by new blood and see something new as well.

' Wrote:The problem is that there's not going to get any good out of it if you just leave the new guys alone without any guidance (faction responsibility regarding setting examples). We had that before during a low-activity period and it really didn't get better afterwards.
In late .85 we were at a point where there are quite a few indies with a rather decent level. Considering it, I'd actually say that the certain council-GRN alliances have done their fair share as well of getting outcasts less interested in playing.

' Wrote:What's with the entire "don't take your caps to bretonian"-thing though?

Oh, and if those outcasts are doing that with the purpose of changing the entire diplomacy, maybe a FR5 was the wrong approach and a 1.2 would have been better. Nowadays factions seem to be less willing to act upon indy trolling though (like, after the [A]-incident).