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Corsair - Zoner - Curios - 02-09-2012
' Wrote:Theta has Two Bases, two Uninhabited Planets - both bases are Zoner bases.
Delta contains a Corsair Base and a BHG Base (As well as an Admin base) - So the ownership of the system would be jointly contested by those factions with those bases - neither could say the system belongs solely to one or the other.
Same with O3 - Bretonia, IMG, and even Rheinland presence makes it somewhat of a contest - but Bretonia says it belongs to them, and while I think thats retarded, whatever. I voiced my opinion about houses owning border systems back in the summer.
Corsairs don't own Theta - they have no base there. Only a JH leading to there system.
On the side note, Omega 3 is not a bordering system. The border system is Omega 7, Omega 3 is a Bretonia territory.
Not really populated but still.
Corsair - Zoner - Mímir - 02-09-2012
Really who cares about who was right and who was wrong?
Why not just fix the problem at hand with any possible solution - be it forming a council, destruction of the freeports, modifications of Zoner warships, removing the freeports from player control or something else?
Also I have a hard time grasping the notion of the totally fragmented Zoners being able to produce warships on a massive scale. There are just too many things that needs to be addressed, and no one seems inclined to do so, because it will involve restrictions to some extent.
Corsair - Zoner - spikefin - 02-09-2012
' Wrote:Really who cares about who was right and who was wrong?
Why not just fix the problem at hand with any possible solution - be it forming a council, destruction of the freeports, modifications of Zoner warships, removing the freeports from player control or something else?
Silly example, But example none the less.
Corsairs say they will cease all hostilities, If the admins agree to ban your(Peder_Dingo) IP from server for life.
We say ok, and admins do it.....
You say what? Your glad the situation was fixed? I Doubt it, The reason its not as simple as you pretend is fairly obvious, no-one can agree on much atm. Read this WHOLE post, starts ok, gets raged, gets more raged, flames start, start simmering, you arrive, simmering still slowing, You start saying these random things...
Id say our raging at Corsairs and them raging back and at others is getting things sorted, In our own heads, I sure didn't start out agreeing with anything any Corsairs said, Much has changed.
The one thing I think is very true, is what Doc Holiday said, Corsairs want a RP solution to a problem, But the only solution that will work is ooc, not exact words, but as i understood him.
And your edit
' Wrote:Also I have a hard time grasping the notion of the totally fragmented Zoners being able to produce warships on a massive scale. There are just too many things that needs to be addressed, and no one seems inclined to do so, because it will involve restrictions to some extent.
How about (this may have been done before but...) You make a post, addressing the irp issues you beleive exist. I have no doubt people will have RP to explain it. I had a hard time grasping alot of things in the last six weeks, slowely my eyes are opening to some things I didn't think were possible.
Ohh, and I bid you farewell for a while, as you have gone from constructive on topic comments and questions, to some weird line of "zoner this" which isn't helpful IMO
Corsair - Zoner - Mímir - 02-09-2012
Come on no one said anything about refusing Players to Play on this server. Yes to address the zoner problem sacrifices might have to be made, but isn't really as drastic as you make it out to be. A Political union might be all it takes, really
Edit: I'm just saying a lot of zoners in this thread fancy to make themselves out in one way when it suit their Particular need, and the exact oPposite way when it serves other needs. Hence the credibility issue
Corsair - Zoner - spikefin - 02-09-2012
' Wrote:Come on no one said anything about refusing Players to Play on this server. Yes to address the zoner problem sacrifices might have to be made, but isn't really as drastic as you make it out to be. A Political union might be all it takes, really
You only read half?
It was an example as stated, showing that, that which one thinks will work another dosn't.
Go read comms channels, Theres more than Corsairs kicking up a fuss at zoners now.
sheesh.
Hang ill even quote myself (As i checked to make sure i mentioned it)
"no-one can agree on much atm"
Corsair - Zoner - globalplayer-svk - 02-09-2012
' Wrote:I think we will all agree to exchange Freeport 9 and Corfu on removal of stationary Corsair "Osiris" battleships in Omega-47 and Omicron-91.
I typed that i am out of this topic,but i can not resist to reply on this
O91???? You are joking????????????
O91 is TBH system...so first remove every zoner thing from o74,and then try to talk about o91....
And again o91 is TBH system and corsair guard system...
I love people who first suggest something without knowing anything..exactly that is reason why is this conflict where it is
Corsair - Zoner - Mímir - 02-09-2012
Ok well if you insist on the right to bickering so be it. I got nothing invested in this, I just comment on the blatant hipocrisy I am witness to. My own selfish angle is that I would like to know how I should size up the Zoners who just wants to be left alone / being totally atomised while having the ability to build a massive lolling fleet of warships / war mongering yet peace loving non-violent yet non-believers of pascifism / Freeport-sympathising yet not giving a damn about Freeports / allying with all sorts while raiding yet not having any allies etc. etc. the list of contradictions goes on forever, and nobody seems interested in addressing these things - not even by forming a political union - as it will entail some form of sacrifice.
Corsair - Zoner - Mímir - 02-09-2012
Sorry for double posting.
Corsair - Zoner - Riebezagel - 02-09-2012
' Wrote:O91???? You are joking????????????
O91 is TBH system...so first remove every zoner thing from o74,and then try to talk about o91....
And again o91 is TBH system and corsair guard system...
I love people who first suggest something without knowing anything..exactly that is reason why is this conflict where it is
' Wrote:Corsairs - You're incredibly stupid.
:lol:
Corsair - Zoner - Silver - 02-09-2012
:lol: