' Wrote:Yep, I think a good test of 'completely changing' your faction's RP can be seen when you look at a list of bases your faction bases off. If it consists of:

Your faction's bases, and no others - you probably haven't changed that much!

If it consists of
"Islay Base in Edinburgh (6 k from the Leeds JH) the Kusari Battleship Yamaguchi in Tau 31, Shinakuk Station, a Samura base, all of 15k from the Tau31 jg and 10k from the tau 31 jh, Oso Station a KNF base(you know it as Glasgow), Daisin station a Samura base (you know it as Stokes) Battleship Nagasaki"
then it looks like you've made some pretty huge changes!


A pretty direct parallel to this would be seeing the LWB raiding Gamma or pirating in O-3. I don't think people would see this and say 'hmm, this seems pretty vanilla'

' Wrote:To start, this is not an invitation for asking us to change our rp.. I have spoken with my memebers and Allies, and we are confident in the legitimacy of our rp. Our RP in Bretonia has absolutly nothing to do with the Privateers, it was not a reaction to them, it was not to be like them. We have our own reasons for being there.

A few points of reference before we begin reguarding the AFA and NLH relations

[font=Times]http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=8915&view=findpost&p=147793

[color=#0000ff]http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=6781&view=findpost&p=145208



The Artisan Farmers Alliance is an ultra nationalist sub group of the Farmers Alliance of Kusari, the militant wing of the Kusari Farmers Party. In fact, the AFA is a very small proportion of the overall FA forces. The AFA feels that the Artisan, traditional ways of growing food are superior, and need to be protected from the modern development of bio domes, synthfood and genetically / chemically altered produce. Ze'ev Barak, born Naato Togachi, is the current Taishi of the AFA, he is also a minister of government, representative of the Farmers Party. He is currently the most well known Farmers Alliance leader.

[font=Times]AFAs Goals

[font=Times]1) To protect the traditional values and culture of Kusari.

2) To work for the betterment of the Kusari workers

3) To protect and advance the status of the Farmer in the Kusari community

4) To defend Kusari from threats both foreign and domestic

5) To advance the goal of increasing Samuras corporate profile both within Kusari and outside

6) To work both inside of Kusari and outside to advance the use of artesian crafts and traditional process of production


One of the oldest diplomatic relations the AFA has is with the Bretonian group the NLH, a sub section of the Gaian movement, the militant wing of the Green Party. // This relation goes back over a year in real world time.// This relation is one of the closest that either group has. This relation was personally nurtured and developed by Barak and then leader of the NLH Sean Dawson. When Dawson was injured and incapacitated, Barak came immediately to Islay to check on the man who had become a close friend. When Damien McEwin took over leadership of the NLH, this relation between the AFA and NLH grew closer, with Damien and Ze'ev developing their own, close personal friendship. This personal relationship has helped lead to a very tight relation between the two factions.



[font=Times]One need only look at the message dumps of the BPA and QCRF to find reports of AFA operations in Bretonia dating back over a year. The AFA has made a practice of targeting Bretonian shipping, as well as defending themselves from the local authorities. These attacks are based on several basis's. First, Bretonia is the only food market not being infiltrated to one degree or another by Synthfoods, making it a huge potential resource for Samura. This Market has not developed a taste for Synthpaste, and therefore Samura wants to interfere with the current food distribution network in Bretonia. Second, as Kusari and Bretonia are at war, the Emperor has implored all Kusari citizens to contribute to the war effort in their own way. With it's close relations with the NLH, and it's long record of operating in Bretonia, the AFA are uniquely suited to acts as intermediary between the opposition groups in Bretonia, and KNF forces. Also AFA pilots are already familiar the ins and outs of Bretonian space, making them well suited to work with the KNF as scouts, and as an interdictor of Bretonian supply lines.



[font=Times]The AFA has been working in Bretonia proper much longer than the KNF, and has always had their own goals in mind when working there. Without the Bretonian corporate food producers, Samura becomes the only major producer of "real" food in Sirius. The AFA also uses Bretonia as a hunting ground for Libertonian transports due to the large number of them aiding Bretonia in the war effort.



The AFA's diplomacy is always in flux. It's relations with the KNF and KSP, which are currently friendly, are based on the AFA's efforts against the Bretonians, GC, and Blood Dragons. This relationship will have to be reviewed after the war is over, as the level of threat to Kusari will have changed one way or another.

The same can be said for the NLH, depending on how the war between the Kusari and the Bretonians, the relations of the of these two groups will have to be reevaluated. While this friendship runs deep each group must keep it's own interests in mind, and for the moment, both of their goals are in alignment.
Now, I will rationaly discuss any civil questions that are asked, but if your post is going to contain "Join the KNF" or "Your not doing what your NPC's do" I will not be responding. That said, I hope this answers some of the questions about the AFA's operations in Bretonia.

edit, and yes I obviously have problems with formating posts.

' Wrote:hummmm a yea from the time ya see the [KNF] take base in leeds,ya guys jump there,all of your damm faction and just sit near stoke waiting for someone to gangbang in group.



Dont push your luck Zelot,you and the [AFA] and the Hoshoga,you guys try to act as the kusarian navy,but your dont,you guys are farmer,so go farming.

' Wrote:No i have no question for you,my goal are to destroy your punny and pathetic RP,your reason for be in Bretonia have no-sense,get your ship back in kusari............................. farmer

' Wrote:If you have any comment to file, maybe send them to someone who gives a damn.

This said, why exactly AFA would be allied to Gaian? I mean, Gaian, sure, they like nature, but if bretonian grow natural food too, shouldn't they be trying to protect their own country' market rather than helping some far away foreigner that slaughter their own people?

' Wrote:<snip>Well, the Bretonians are obviously gaining more profits on their dealings with Synth Foods, and that's where the Gaians come in. Everything else is gravy.

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Their RP seems very logical to anyone who knows about business or politics, and the faction's post and participation in RP threads doesn't raise any smart doubts.
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' Wrote:-

' Wrote:There's no trade going into Kusari from Bretonia. They should be more concerned about Libertonians.

' Wrote:Right, hellishly long, so I'll get these first.

Bretonia has ZERO DEALINGS WITH SYNTH FOODS.

'Anyone who knows abot business or politics'? You're an expert on both now? I'm a month or two from finishing a degree in Politics, (which doesn't make me an expert, but I think I know a few things) and I don't think they should be in Leeds.

There's no trade going into Kusari from Bretonia. They should be more concerned about Libertonians.

' Wrote:Gaian's are actually against the destruction of Ecosystem's, and Nature. Nothing about Food. They're not Farmer's. They're Environmentalists.

So technically, Farming destroys the ecosystem. So, in reality, if I was a Gaian. I would be against the Farmers Alliance.

' Wrote:Blunty, do we really need to get credentials in here? Ok, I am about 18 credits away from a duel masters in History and Secondary Education. One of my big things when learning about history, and when I teach it, is how everything is interrelated, and how things almost never go the way people think they will before hand. Trying to assign rational motivations to emotional reactions is a lose/lose proposition.

' Wrote:I dunno, I suppose I should ask the KNF why they allow a bunch of civilian militias on a militarised station then... Frankly, the AFA members' pasts are irrelevant, the present is that they are currently little more than a militia that the government has not seen fit to declare hostile. Certainly not government employed mercenaries (hence why the Blackwater reference doesn't apply). You operate in conjuction with the Gaians - fine, but that still doesn't explain how attacking Bretonia accomplishes any of the AFA's goals. In response to your post Zelot, Samura does not have any financial interests in Bretonia. At least not yet. Interdiction of Bretonian supply lines does exactly nil to further your political agenda in Kusari.

Come to think of it, why are Gaians openly helping Kusari when the Green Front is a party in the Bretonian parliament, lobbying for change there? Wouldn't that, you know, hurt their cause a bit...?

' Wrote:Hang on.... The Gaians can't get even near a ballot box in Bretonia... no votes, we have no chance without guns