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Battle Razors.. - Tenacity - 03-28-2009
Quote:There is also for example the KNF dessie which is 1/5 the size of the carrier. To shoot that one with a supernova you need to come really close with a bomber, so if someone mounts full razors and infernos on that one he can turn it into a bomber instakilling, capship terrifying, swiss army knife
Problem is they both use the same weaponry, nerfing it in order to balance one undersized ship is going to cause problems for all of the other large cruisers and battlecruisers, for the same reason that improving speed/range on cruiser solaris turrets - while needed for the carrier - would overpower smaller cruisers.
Ask for changes to the ships, not the weapons. You cant balance a weapon universally when you have 20-30 different ships, all ranging in stats from size to armor to manuverability, using that same weapon.
Battle Razors.. - JakeSG - 03-28-2009
' Wrote:Woops, ignore that then. >.>
I like your style. Let's be friends.
Battle Razors.. - bluntpencil2001 - 03-28-2009
' Wrote:Problem is they both use the same weaponry, nerfing it in order to balance one undersized ship is going to cause problems for all of the other large cruisers and battlecruisers, for the same reason that improving speed/range on cruiser solaris turrets - while needed for the carrier - would overpower smaller cruisers.
Ask for changes to the ships, not the weapons. You cant balance a weapon universally when you have 20-30 different ships, all ranging in stats from size to armor to manuverability, using that same weapon.
Right, your carrier can stay uber with those guns then, no problem. We'll make sure that happens.
Battle Razors.. - Koolmo - 03-28-2009
Heh, good ol' misdirected insults...
Cam, d'you suppose when he said "Testing", he actually meant that he's the balance team, judge, jury, and executioner? When he talks about testing, that's what he means, we're not out to gank things just because, we're out to try and make this game enjoyable for everyone, not just capwhoars.
EDIT: Yea, good thinking bluntie, wouldn't want to make the massive carrier any less awesome or anything...
Battle Razors.. - Tenacity - 03-28-2009
Quote:Right, your carrier can stay uber with those guns then, no problem. We'll make sure that happens.
I dont even have razors on my carrier right now, ditched them in favor of two more primaries for killing gunships since the razors couldnt hit them half the time.
Battle Razors.. - Caribe - 03-28-2009
' Wrote:I like your style. Let's be friends.
Agreed we shall continue via pm.
Battle Razors.. - Koolmo - 03-28-2009
Wow, you can kill gunships with just a pair of primaries? Something else to be looked into...
Battle Razors.. - Blodo - 03-28-2009
' Wrote:Problem is they both use the same weaponry, nerfing it in order to balance one undersized ship is going to cause problems for all of the other large cruisers and battlecruisers, for the same reason that improving speed/range on cruiser solaris turrets - while needed for the carrier - would overpower smaller cruisers.Well here's the thing, your carrier got BS shields already, that's more than enough to allow you to fly up to others and then pound them from a shorter range with razors - or - do what cruisers are meant to do and sit at range and lob projectiles over at the other caps. Razors are closer range weapons in case someone happens to decide to begin the fight by cruising up to you, or you decide to do just that to him.
Ask for changes to the ships, not the weapons. You cant balance a weapon universally when you have 20-30 different ships, all ranging in stats from size to armor to manuverability, using that same weapon.
The Kusari dessie can hardly be nerfed any further without making it useless. Right now we need to strike a balance in weapons, because it's not just that dessie, but also the OC dessie (as mentioned above) and a few other light cruisers especially are able to take advantage of people needing to come close to hit them right. In that case a cruiser razor speed nerf is in order I'd say.
Battle Razors.. - Koolmo - 03-28-2009
I'd say a combonation of speed and damage myself, this concept of being lambasted by a single razor is rather annoying. Not to mention these apparently deadly primary turrets...
Battle Razors.. - Tenacity - 03-28-2009
' Wrote:Wow, you can kill gunships with just a pair of primaries? Something else to be looked into...
I said an extra pair, dont be an ass.