(10-25-2023, 09:18 PM)Lord Helmchen Wrote: Interesting. But i have a Question? I am leader of OS&C thats a Inter House faction wit Dealings in all Houses. How are Interhoudr Factions like Mine Treated in this Stuff? Because as it is right Now we are Not Represented anywhere.

I ask because for Example Cortez (Orbitals Main System) is a Joint Protectorate of both Liberty and Bretonia. Does that mean we are Part of both LibGov and BretGov?

(10-25-2023, 09:18 PM)Lord Helmchen Wrote: Joint Protectorate of both Liberty and Bretonia.

(10-25-2023, 08:15 PM)Karst Wrote: Official Police, Military, Intelligence, and Corporate faction with an ID classification belonging to that house. All of these leaders will have equal votes in their respective governments

(10-25-2023, 09:21 PM)Czechmate Wrote:

(10-25-2023, 08:30 PM)Tenshi Wrote: I second that this is a change that should've came a long time now, but I think it'd be a lot healthier to either make the Government consist of both the 1ic and 2ic of an OF. In addition to that, if either the 1ic or 2ic of a faction isn't able to take up that spot (reduced activity for example) they should have the ability to be replaced with a faction representative instead after their written agreement.

This system also fails to consider the factions that aren't official, something which some Govs (cough cough, Libgov, cough cough) already realized and took measures towards that.

Good idea, pretty lackluster implementation in my honest opinion. I understand that some people just can't be assed to play by the rules and end up screwing over the entire playerbase, but your now mandatory Government build is just a worse version of what we (Libgov) already had. We had achieved a very good level of representation of our house by involving OFs, non-OFs and even people in there who didn't represent any faction but where there because they're respected and logical.

You're ruining this.

I disagree about Lib Gov, it did feel arbitrary often, they are why the OF has to have representation was introduced in the first place when they excluded LIA

(10-25-2023, 09:24 PM)Tenshi Wrote:

(10-25-2023, 09:21 PM)Czechmate Wrote:

(10-25-2023, 08:30 PM)Tenshi Wrote: I second that this is a change that should've came a long time now, but I think it'd be a lot healthier to either make the Government consist of both the 1ic and 2ic of an OF. In addition to that, if either the 1ic or 2ic of a faction isn't able to take up that spot (reduced activity for example) they should have the ability to be replaced with a faction representative instead after their written agreement.

This system also fails to consider the factions that aren't official, something which some Govs (cough cough, Libgov, cough cough) already realized and took measures towards that.

Good idea, pretty lackluster implementation in my honest opinion. I understand that some people just can't be assed to play by the rules and end up screwing over the entire playerbase, but your now mandatory Government build is just a worse version of what we (Libgov) already had. We had achieved a very good level of representation of our house by involving OFs, non-OFs and even people in there who didn't represent any faction but where there because they're respected and logical.

You're ruining this.

I disagree about Lib Gov, it did feel arbitrary often, they are why the OF has to have representation was introduced in the first place when they excluded LIA

Jokes on you, LIA was and still is in Libgov, get your facts straight.

(10-25-2023, 09:21 PM)Czechmate Wrote:

(10-25-2023, 08:30 PM)Tenshi Wrote: I second that this is a change that should've came a long time now, but I think it'd be a lot healthier to either make the Government consist of both the 1ic and 2ic of an OF. In addition to that, if either the 1ic or 2ic of a faction isn't able to take up that spot (reduced activity for example) they should have the ability to be replaced with a faction representative instead after their written agreement.

This system also fails to consider the factions that aren't official, something which some Govs (cough cough, Libgov, cough cough) already realized and took measures towards that.

Good idea, pretty lackluster implementation in my honest opinion. I understand that some people just can't be assed to play by the rules and end up screwing over the entire playerbase, but your now mandatory Government build is just a worse version of what we (Libgov) already had. We had achieved a very good level of representation of our house by involving OFs, non-OFs and even people in there who didn't represent any faction but where there because they're respected and logical.

You're ruining this.

I disagree about Lib Gov, it did feel arbitrary often, they are why the OF has to have representation was introduced in the first place when they excluded LIA

(10-25-2023, 09:22 PM)LunaticOnTheGrass Wrote:

(10-25-2023, 09:18 PM)Lord Helmchen Wrote: Interesting. But i have a Question? I am leader of OS&C thats a Inter House faction wit Dealings in all Houses. How are Interhoudr Factions like Mine Treated in this Stuff? Because as it is right Now we are Not Represented anywhere.

I ask because for Example Cortez (Orbitals Main System) is a Joint Protectorate of both Liberty and Bretonia. Does that mean we are Part of both LibGov and BretGov?

To be fair your faction is part of the "Independent Worlds", not explicitly House Space.

There's no similar advantage for officialdom for Unlawfuls (obviously), but maybe something beneficial for them will be coming in the future.

(10-25-2023, 09:22 PM)LunaticOnTheGrass Wrote: There's no similar advantage for officialdom for Unlawfuls (obviously), but maybe something beneficial for them will be coming in the future.

(10-25-2023, 09:26 PM)Lord Helmchen Wrote:

(10-25-2023, 09:22 PM)LunaticOnTheGrass Wrote:

(10-25-2023, 09:18 PM)Lord Helmchen Wrote: Interesting. But i have a Question? I am leader of OS&C thats a Inter House faction wit Dealings in all Houses. How are Interhoudr Factions like Mine Treated in this Stuff? Because as it is right Now we are Not Represented anywhere.

I ask because for Example Cortez (Orbitals Main System) is a Joint Protectorate of both Liberty and Bretonia. Does that mean we are Part of both LibGov and BretGov?

To be fair your faction is part of the "Independent Worlds", not explicitly House Space.

There's no similar advantage for officialdom for Unlawfuls (obviously), but maybe something beneficial for them will be coming in the future.

Well by this logic we can simply decalre Cortez as Orbital Property and create our own Goverment. Plus there is also the Case of Baden Baden. This would make us Part of the Official Factions of Rheinland at least.

(10-25-2023, 09:26 PM)Lord Helmchen Wrote:

(10-25-2023, 09:22 PM)LunaticOnTheGrass Wrote:

(10-25-2023, 09:18 PM)Lord Helmchen Wrote: Interesting. But i have a Question? I am leader of OS&C thats a Inter House faction wit Dealings in all Houses. How are Interhoudr Factions like Mine Treated in this Stuff? Because as it is right Now we are Not Represented anywhere.

I ask because for Example Cortez (Orbitals Main System) is a Joint Protectorate of both Liberty and Bretonia. Does that mean we are Part of both LibGov and BretGov?

To be fair your faction is part of the "Independent Worlds", not explicitly House Space.

There's no similar advantage for officialdom for Unlawfuls (obviously), but maybe something beneficial for them will be coming in the future.

Well by this logic we can simply declare Cortez as Orbital Property and create our own Goverment. Plus there is also the Case of Baden Baden. This would make us Part of the Official Factions of Rheinland at least.

You see the situation isn't that simple and thats why I ask for CLARIFICATION From the STAFF.