' Wrote:Uhm... my personal opinion, a question, and slightly off topic.

Is Order trying to control artifact trade?

Why? I see why Order should buy artifacts, but why stop the shipping of artifacts to other places? It aint helping the nomads...

' Wrote:There are major flaws in the logic of this so called 'alliance'.

' Wrote:First of all, in RP, the Order have far more advanced technology than any Corsair can dream of.

' Wrote:Just because the Titan was considerably superior to the Anubis in...
So this is where the discovery devs failed, which is messing the game mechanics with roleplay.

' Wrote:Secondly, much like their other allies (the Hogosha), the Corsairs are genuine artifact smugglers, clearly something the Order wouldn't tolerate.

' Wrote:The Order are a very complex organization, whereas the Corsairs have a form of organization, they are still basically ruthless pirates, that would care less about the fate of manking. So, another mismatch of the two.

' Wrote:And thirdly, it's the devs' fault that they created Omicron Delta as a clashing point between these two factions. Why would the Corsairs build a base in Delta and not in Kappa first, I have no idea, but it lacks any logic. And as far as I'm concerned, Omicron Minor was linked to a sector of Omicron Beta, the one with the nomad lair.

' Wrote:This stuff needs fixing, for the sake of RP. Of course, there are many people against taking action, probably because they're too attached to their factions or something, even though their stories are pretty much ridiculous due to this.

' Wrote:and why stopping? order is trying to have under control all nomad technology, and artifacts are nomad tech.

Quote:In order to overcome the nomads, humanity needs to understand the DKV. So why tr to bock DKV artifacts?

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' Wrote:Okay, this is a mod design question. The Corsair/Order alliance was not set up just to assign Osiris to corsairs. It looks cool in patrols, yes, better than most custom ships would look. However, it's still not a reason.

Diplomacy in nomad worlds is tough business. Several factions are represented: The Order, who guard against nomads and exploit local resources; Corsairs, who exploit resources and attack lawfuls like Bounty Hunters and Liberty military; Zoners, who just trade (and, again, try to explore and get whatever goods of value they can get). On the other side, there's Liberty Navy and Bounty Hunters, who expand into the Nomad systems from Alaska. Interests of Liberty remain uncertain, other than studying Nomads in order to prevent further intrusions. Bounty Hunters are obviously financed by Liberty government to protect their operations.

And there are nomads, who are hostile to everyone.

What happened to The Order after the war? I'll cover that part in the new mod version if I'll have time, since the info seems to be necessary. First of all, it's obvious that Liberty government tried to conceal the role that Order played in the war. The events that happened to Trent never came to be fully known to general public, even though Jacobi knew (and awarded Trent with the Lone Star). For Liberty public, The Order was still a dangerous terrorist organization that somehow helped against nomads, but didn't became less dangerous after that (possibly it became more dangerous and gained more power).

Jacobi could not be a president for life, of course. Her successor was much less tolerable with The Order issues, and demanded a full investigation. LSF and Navy used this order to eliminate all Order agents in Liberty, and tighten Alaska patrols to prevent all possible intrusions of The Order. This meant that most supply lines for The Order were cut off, and the faction turned towards Corsairs because food was lacking, metals were lacking, and pilots were lacking. Corsairs, who already established an outpost in the nearby Delta, seemed to be the only hope. Of course, not everyone in The Order was sure about this decision, including Orilion himself; but his role as a spiritual leader declined, and many of his old followers were already dead, killed in fights with Nomads. The new Order leaders did not hezitate to ally with criminals for survival and money. Liberty considered them criminals anyway, and they had no access to the systems of other Houses.

Outcasts... well, they fought for The Order not quite because they were allies, but because Nomads were a common threat. All factions played a certain role in fighting Nomads back. As far as I can remember, there was only one Outcast ship in the Order fleet that fought against Nomads in the final missions.

The Rheinland issue. Well, cleansing Rheinland from Nomad-infested people did not happen because The Order destroyed several battleships, and Bundschuh were far too weak to do this themselves. Again, a question for the storyline to answer. Someday.

' Wrote:What's wrong about the rumor?

I don't think that it's wrong for Outcasts to have The Order on their enemy list. They never fight each other, right? So there's no open confrontation. No systems where both factions are present. As for the enemy... well, since Corsairs help The Order, Order became a part of Corsair coalition. That's quite simple, and I don't see any problems about that.

Why Order is not allied with Blood Dragons, or Bundschuh? Probably some ties between them remain. But both factions are just too far away to influence the situation.

Meanwhile, you might be right about enemy list. Maybe it's worth to remove them from one another's enemies... they don't fight each other, right?:)

This should tell you why Order should be allied with the Corsairs and more.

I am getting sick of all these "Screw the Order-Corsair Alliance" topics. This has been established as in-game canon, meaning it will not go away for quite some time.