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Survey: Nomad Membership (October --- 2009) - albert001 - 10-28-2009
' Wrote:I believe, that those who posted yes, are noobs trying to get the best weapons and no engagement notices.
Hey, no need to get offensive. Even if there is a little bit truth about it.
I voted no. All the ship swarms in NY breaking rules and OoRPing would just change with nomad ship swarms in NY breaking rules and OoRPing while making it impossible to survive without a nomad ship.
Anyone making nomad only server?
Survey: Nomad Membership (October --- 2009) - jxie93 - 10-28-2009
' Wrote:Hey, no need to get offensive. Even if there is a little bit truth about it.
I voted no. All the ship swarms in NY breaking rules and OoRPing would just change with nomad ship swarms in NY breaking rules and OoRPing while making it impossible to survive without a nomad ship.
Anyone making nomad only server?
ONOEZ we've run out of non-nomads to shoot at! Let's all shoot at each other with our uber jelly shipz!11!!
ololololololololololololo
Survey: Nomad Membership (October --- 2009) - chovynz - 10-28-2009
See this thread for my answer. The same applies. Treewyrm has it. Click his linky.
Survey: Nomad Membership (October --- 2009) - DAnvilFan - 10-28-2009
Treewyrm + Felix: Please do not make multiple posts* in this thread. Everyone taking the survey is allowed to express their opinion only once.
*Fixed
Survey: Nomad Membership (October --- 2009) - Treewyrm - 10-28-2009
With whom I'm arguing to be exactly? I'm simply adding pieces to my original post. Other than the joke I made regarding Venom's post there weren't replies directed or argues, every other post here I made was an addition to the first post I made here. People say things here and I don't see how am I not allowed to talk or continue my post (even if that's multiple posts, that's just a technical matter, nothing else). If you wanted pure survey you could have asked moderators/admins to make a thread which would contain only poll and posting closed. You wanted people to express their opinions once - I do so and I don't repeat myself but adding new things. To my own post first and foremost. And given my role in this whole Nomad thing I believe I've got a lot to say, a lot that cannot be fit in a single message alone. Or do you think that one message written in a short period of time is enough for this subject? If so you underestimate it's complexity. I'm sorry but I'll keep adding my thoughts on the matter as it'll go on. And what I'm saying here is why it's not an easy subject, it's not a matter of a simple choice, there is a lot to it, a lot people don't see and don't understand. Trust me, I've given this whole subject of "open faction" a lot of thought (why do you see Trial ID? And all the talks around about moving that idea further, expanding it, relaxing it), more than anyone else here, and I certainly got a right to say about it, right to explain the thoughts, the complexity of the situation, the issues surrounding it and difficulties of making it happen. My position on the subject cannot be given as simple as "yes" or "no", and it's not "other" even, it is something "else", and it needs to be explained and needs to be heard, IF we are ever to give it all a proper and thorough thought, otherwise without it this whole poll is completely meaningless and of no use at all. If it's just yet another "yay/nay" result-less poll then what's the point? Pushing one button out of three and making a single short message is hardly useful at all.
Survey: Nomad Membership (October --- 2009) - chovynz - 10-28-2009
' Wrote:Treewyrm + Felix: Please do not make multiple posts* in this thread. Everyone taking the survey is allowed to express their opinion only once.Except for the fact that Treewyrm IS the nomad king, and so can correct false information that people so easily spout. Afterall, we don't want people to get the wrong idea do we. In the end the poll results don't matter.
*Fixed
"Pull your head in" is basically what I'm gently saying.
Survey: Nomad Membership (October --- 2009) - Gin* - 10-28-2009
I have typed that No Button, end of the story, and who absolutely wants to be a Nomad (there is an high amount of Members who joined them) just use the Nomad Trial ID, thats why it was added to the Mod.
Survey: Nomad Membership (October --- 2009) - mwerte - 10-29-2009
I voted no, I like being in an elite club of admin favorites.
/sarcasm
Survey: Nomad Membership (October --- 2009) - globalplayer-svk - 10-29-2009
voted no.
reason?
imagine all the pvp whores with free acces to nomad equipment and nomad id that allow you attack almost all humans...
i think they majority of the forum will be about pvp rule violation reports for pvp abuse...
other thing is as typed above. nomads are working with collective mind.
100 indies, 100 different opinions on important things. how then can nomads act as united?...
and dont think that being nomad is so great as many think... most of the time when you try to rp, response is: opening fire ...
Survey: Nomad Membership (October --- 2009) - Treewyrm - 10-29-2009
So once again continuing my thoughts on the matter... (sorry for the post above, I was rather upset with that "notice")
Can it be an "open faction"? Hypothetically, yes. Can it be opened now? Certainly not, like I pointed out at the lack of in-game infrastructure, it simply does not support such option at the moment. What would it need to be an "open faction"? Heck a lot. First we have to understand that role-play essentially is represented by actual players only, and that's a big factor here. There are no NPCs in bars that would tell you all that. Apart from the Shrine NPCs, and even those were just added as a little bonus for RPers around, I asked several high profile RPers around to contribute those NPC stories to it, so it wouldn't look like it was written by one person. But then again - what works for Shrine ain't going to work for real Nomad bases unfortunately. If you ever been in them (via running own server or OpenSP, for example) you'd know they're merely carbon copies of some other stations/bases around, there is nothing on them. To populate them, to add content that would help the "independents" here would require a lot of effort and time. And the fact is that essentially there is just one developer who was doing all that Nomad stuff around, and that was just me. Next thing is ID. A terrorist class ID running in wild would cause a lot of problems around. So essentially they would need their own ID with a set of limitations. In certain ways similar to what Trial ID is. Then comes reputation and methods of gaining it. Again not an easy area and a lot of technical limitations apply, limitations that exist for the Nomad faction (unlike the others it lacks a lot of technical parameters that are used in missions and stuff) and so forth. But all that are just technical matters. Aside of that exist a lot more, and the fundamental one is called responsibility. It's a running issue for many other factions around which are open, such subject alone would take pages and pages of talking about it, hopefully I'll have the time later to touch that subject as well.