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How should Zoners "behave"? - bluntpencil2001 - 09-12-2007
So you're not mercenaries then?
Sound more like a charity, now.
Plus, traders aren't weaker. They make loads of cash on that run. To buy huge ships.
How should Zoners "behave"? - Korrd - 09-12-2007
Read my prior post again. I've edited like 10 times now.
Not a charity. Its complicated. It depends who of us is leading the faction at that moment. Right now, I'm on a leave of absence. The Korrd period of the AW saw few wars, and some sort of stability (except the -=?=- wars, and the CCE/CUFF thing). Now we are on the Dab part of the cycle again. As I said, an oddity in command structure, where the leadership have all different way of thinking.
How should Zoners "behave"? - bluntpencil2001 - 09-12-2007
There seems to be a lack of of a unifying concept here then.
Why in Sirius would a noble servant of Justice, like such a Knight, side with such a greedy, money-grubbing mercenary?
It just doesn't gel.
How should Zoners "behave"? - Korrd - 09-12-2007
Because I like AW.
I am like the moderating bars on a nuclear reactor. While the bars are there, all is ok. Remove them, and hell breaks loose.
How should Zoners "behave"? - Equinox - 09-12-2007
' Wrote:Our reason to go red with the corsairs was because they gave help to our then enemies, the SCRA. Before that, TBH was friendly towards us. You can check that on the AW gazette, where some TBH ships are shown helping us to get rid of some pirates in there.
Speaking as a brotherhood elder,
This is the bit that confuses me, and its not a dig or anything i just don't understand, you became hostile to the brotherhood when we entered the war to help SCRA against the HF, then AW put us hostile because there your allies, but then some kind of deal is done behind doors, SCRA no longer are hostile to AW or fight the HF so surely that should nullify the reason why you are hostile to the brotherhood?, but no we see attacks on gamma everyday by the AW.
To me it just seems abit unfair and quite frankly weird how the other 3 factions are fine with each other now but the brotherhood are still set to hostile and are being attacked daily.
We stopped attacks on the HF and the AW along time ago, but still you attack us every day.
Even when we entered this "war" Maniaco gave the order to stay out of theta, only use it when needed to pass through, we where ordered to only fire on AW if they fire on us, we entered the war to fight HF apparently, now we have never pirated in theta, the acts of corsair tagged players are not ours so i ask why are we still hostile korrd?
How should Zoners "behave"? - bluntpencil2001 - 09-12-2007
In fact, the HF pulled out of the war quite early on.
How should Zoners "behave"? - pipsqueak - 09-12-2007
Hopefully this will be MY last post on this topic and will wait for Admins to resolve this matter.
JG stance towards AW is confirmed neutral from now on because at this point JG will not recognize them as Zoner affiliated in any manner.
I however do advise AW to refrain from calling themselves as Zoners till the admins resolve this matter.
As a merc we may open fire on AW (if hired to do so) and also are available for hire by AW, if they need help.
I do like the idea suggested earlier of "the council of Zoners". Where pure Zoners can recognize factions based on their actions.
Peace.
How should Zoners "behave"? - bluntpencil2001 - 09-12-2007
Also, if certain parts of AW's leadership are so opposed to piracy, why are they allied to pirates?
How should Zoners "behave"? - Korrd - 09-12-2007
Yea, diplomacy needs to be updated.
The HF alliance is a different matter. Our mutual defense agreement forbids pirating on both HF and AW space by any of the signing parties. We have defended them, and they have defended us since the very beginning of AW and HF coexistence.
How should Zoners "behave"? - Kane - 09-12-2007
My two cents, as player and not an admin;
The AW aren't mercs. They aren't Zoners. What they are is a private army. Dab's, to be exact.
Yes, you heard me. Before anyone sets off, let me ask you this; When was the last time the AW got hired? Can anyone tell me? Huh? Come on now, let me know! 'Cause I can't remember...
All right, about the Zoner thing; I think the above has spoken rather well for them selfs. The AW have not been acting like Zoners, have never acted like Zoners, and I really doubt they will ever act as Zoners.
Private army; If you look at everything the AW have done, it's been at Dab's bidding. Or rather, Luciaden, my apologies. Honestly, I have no problems with the AW being a private army, declaring itself an autonomous faction, and then doing whatever the heck they want. But when one claims to be a Zoner, and acts the opposite, then we get into trouble.
As said, I got no problems with the AW being a private army. But, perhaps the AW leadership (That is to day Dab) needs to reclassify them selfs a bit and fix up that RP...