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RE: POBs not working out - Hone - 01-17-2013
(01-17-2013, 07:24 PM)Yaoquizque Wrote: So just to clear things up about this Itabashi thingy.
I see people here going all "KNF isn't doing jacktits, yo".
Duh.
KNF aren't the government. A while ago, West felt like sending a message as ministry of defence ordering BDS to either remove the guns or change the base iff to KSP.
Message went puff because Kusari Government folks weren't consulted.
Now... It's been like this since the beginning of 4.86. Kusari became a Republic.
All fine and dandy, except the government rarely ever did something. Only a few messages/positions here and there.
We cried like little girls for a while to be able to chase peeps from Kyushu to the Taus.
Guess who got the job done, in the end?
We also asked for ages to have Aomori treaty considered as void and new negotiations being done on between the Republic and GMG, since y'know, Kishiro took the upper hand in the political game and they are bros with gmg and all. Made sense for KNF to be allowed to patrol sigmas, yeah?
Nobody gave a fruit, which i k.
Nobody gives a fruit about kusari anyway.
We are already struggling to keep our activity on par. All the unlawful factions said good bye.
We're like... totally ready to go and siege itabashi with our three players having access to a battleship.
And for the record, i'd rather see this base use a kusari lawful iff. But i don't have a word in it, nor does KNF.
Well I titled my message
To Kusarian Lawfuls/those in charge of bases.
And there's still no reply. I got a PM saying to talk to the KSP, but they've lost offiicial status, and I dont know if they're active. Are you saying that there is no one RPing the Kusari governemnt? If so, i belive the KNF has the right to handle bases itself, thats how other houses do it.
BTW which faction are you speaking for here?
RE: POBs not working out - Yaoquizque - 01-17-2013
Kusari Naval Forces.
What is there to roleplay concerning your message.
"Hello, this is knf, we know what happens and despite hogosha being supposed to be on the bad side of the gun after samura got told to stand in the corner wearing a fancy hat, they just bought a station like that and it seems Kusari Parliament is too busy discussing about what to do with Golden Chisantenums hotties captured by law enforcers.... We are following the situation though!"
As i said, knf doesn't get a word in this. We did the choice to not lead the house politics, to differentiate the republic knf from the empire knf.
RE: POBs not working out - Hone - 01-17-2013
Well yes, even that message you put would be better than nothing, "We the KNF appreciate your problem, but it is up to the government, who are discussing it". However, if there is no-one RPing the government, dont you should go back to the old ways? You cant have house politics lead by people who dont exist. And I mean if you saw a hogosha ship attacking a GMG ship, youd arrest them right? You would'nt wait for government word, why not just do the same for a hogosha base? Its still breaking the kusari codex.
RE: POBs not working out - Yaoquizque - 01-17-2013
You made a point, Hone, and your thread was answered.
Now to try to get back to the thread's subject...
If you remove the "because i can" part of the equation, POBs are fine.
The issue is having admins or devs or whoever having to bother with checking how okay dropping a base somewhere is. They are kinda busy already.
Furthermore, roleplay quality is somewhat subjective.
RE: POBs not working out - Echelon - 01-25-2013
Okay New Idea... We Make a rule or so that restricts us from putting player bases a certain distacnce from a Planet JG or what ever....<---bad idea
Or This. Devs Do this for the community.... Make Weapons Platfroms Destroyable ugh I've been insta shot by the hogosha base so many times as THE WEAPONS PLATFORM IS IN THE LANE....some times I feel like people should just Use Their Judgement.. with PoBs. Player Bases are Great I love them.. but they are abused sometimes in ways that hurt the community.. I think we all can agree on most of this post here
RE: POBs not working out - onca - 01-25-2013
(01-25-2013, 09:34 AM)Echilon Wrote: Make Weapons Platfroms Destroyable ugh I've been insta shot by the hogosha base so many times as THE WEAPONS PLATFORM IS IN THE LANE....some times I feel like people should just Use Their Judgement.. with PoBs.<snip>
Agreed. Bases shooting at neutral tagged/ID'd players (I'm looking at you, KSP-come-Hogosha base in NT) is ridiculous. I'm sick to death of logging in after not playing for a week, undocking from somewhere, and getting my arse shot off by some base which popped up like a mushroom. It's just plain antisocial.
Weap platforms on the plane around normal populated areas should be set to defense only. Either that, or nerf them down so that it takes more than 1 shot to drop a top level freighter shield.
Those 100k off the plane can do what they like.
RE: POBs not working out - ryoken - 01-25-2013
It is pointless to complain, as admins are probably laughing their asses off, at players getting ganked by bases outside planets, and lanes.
It is pointless to RP, because no matter what the base owners will make up a Bullshat reason to do nothing.
It is pointless to assault, as no one wants to sit for days shooting a base.
Basically the POBs will continue to pop up in utterly useless spots,Trolling the players, and not a dam thing will be done about it. They are and OORP way for trolls to get their jollys without getting sanctioned for it. Do you really think the base owners put turrets in tradelanes, and outside a planet by accident? NO! they did it to troll, and gank players OORP. They use excuses to justify it, and admins could really care less about the bases.
I think their should be a skype channel for all that dislike these bases, and we should all get on it, and from time to time pick a base, log on every BS/Cruiser?bomber we can, and start killing them off 1 by 1.
Worst that will happen? some players will get fined. Woopy. And everytime we see a new base anywhere near a JG, or hole, or base/planet we kill it fast. Screw the trolls and their OORP excuses to troll entire server.
RE: POBs not working out - Croft - 01-25-2013
As per my idea, I was thinking of temporary siege platforms. Much like EvE's specialist POS destroyers have a siege mode that boosts fire rate and damage at the cost of being unable to escape. That wouldn't work in disco since you retain your ship after death, also it's damned boring to boot.
So we use what we've got, a carrier without a purpose and a system of base defenses. Put them together and we get an interesting bit of kit, limit the time of the turrets, make them destructible (of course) and add a commodity requirement (munitions?). If someone DC's, I don't know give them a minute grace period before they self destruct?
Just throwin' ideas out there.
RE: POBs not working out - Alphablood1 - 01-25-2013
Easyly Lawful Bases Shouldnt instantly kill you when you undock from like planet new tokyo or somthing unlawful abit differnt but their bases should still not be by jump gates
RE: POBs not working out - Veygaar - 01-25-2013
I haven't had a problem with a SINGLE POB that wasn't solvable by my own actions :|