(01-09-2026, 02:57 PM)Chronicron Wrote: With all due respect, you are wrong to expect this. Practice over the last decade shows that if there is a way to abuse the rules one way or another, the players will do it. Not every single one, but the majority. And now with 2.3 in effect, there's even a bigger way for a person who cares nothing for roleplay to just grief a player that might be cooking something up with a character that is just slightly hostile on the rep sheet or has a bounty on them.

(01-09-2026, 02:38 PM)Darius Wrote:

(01-09-2026, 02:23 PM)Lythrilux Wrote: Discovery PvP already has a steep learning curve that gets steeper the smaller your ship gets. Whilst I think consequences for not being able to recall an encounter will vary, there is a part of me that feels it's a bit crappy that a player's roleplay will be undermined by their ability to PvP.

Lowkey if such rules are implemented I think the bar and gameplay consequences for PvP need to be significantly reduced ie the game needs to become much easier, and much more arcadey.

The game already favors PvP and it always has. I know that it is a roleplay server (or so the title says), but roleplay does also include playing the role of the antagonist, and I do believe that many people have forgotten that you are meant to HAVE an actual enemy for story to be of any interest to outsiders and for it to retain momentum. The domination of PvP 'over RP' (is it? idk. It feels weird even uttering it as the concepts go hand in hand and aren't meant to be opposite each other) is a fact that is not changing, and I think it is disingenuous to come out and write about how the game should become more arcadey purely because there's a risk that not every interaction with end with your character making it back home safely and soundly.

Quote:2.3 - Dead men tell no tales - when you are destroyed during a hostile player encounter, your character loses all memory of that encounter, other than that their ship was destroyed.

(01-09-2026, 08:57 AM)Weapon Wrote:

(01-08-2026, 09:03 PM)jammi Wrote:

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Dead men tell no tales:

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Quote:2.3 - Dead men tell no tales - when you are destroyed during a hostile player encounter, your character loses all memory of that encounter, other than that their ship was destroyed.

This is a very common rule that is applied in many other roleplaying game communities. Here are some examples of how this might work in practice:

1. A Freelancer attacks an Official Faction corporate transport in Sigma-13 to claim a bounty. If the transport is destroyed, the player “forgets” the entire encounter leading up to the destruction and knows only that their ship was destroyed by a hostile force. They cannot then report the freelancer to local authorities, apply FR5, set a bounty on them, or otherwise roleplay based on knowledge of their assailant’s identity.

2. The transport sends out a system-wide message identifying their assailant before their death. The transport loses knowledge of their assailant upon being destroyed, however a 3rd party witness could contact them to provide copies of the message. The transport player can now roleplay based on provided 3rd party evidence (although the assailant will probably argue that this is circumstantial at best, unless the witness caught them red-handed).

3. A Freelancer attacks a freighter to claim a bounty. The freighter successfully flees, and docks on a station. The freighter is a combat ship, so docking means it is "dead" for PvP rules. Despite this, the freighter was not actually destroyed during the encounter, meaning it remembers its assailant.

Are you all mad? Has the staff lost their collective minds with this one?

What fruitful outcome can you possibly hope to achieve by forcing collective amnesia on the entire player base? Do you have any idea how many stories, how many rich in-rp rivalries, how much character growth has come, from the near death experiences players have faced with their characters? You want this to be a roleplay server and you're going to force people to omit perhaps the singular most formative event a person can experience from their writing?

I might as well delete every single character I have and pretend the ones I no longer do never existed.