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factionized flagships - Primus Avatar - 07-27-2008
' Wrote:I think perhaps that all capital ship guns should be made refire 1, maybe some with refire 2 tops. They should have a slower speed but do a huge amount of damage. On top of this, their shields and armour should be boosted massively.
So, then you have capital ships that really are not much threat to fighters/bombers who can whiz around them and fighters/bombers will largely not be a threat to capital ships. Bombers will still be able to smack down capital ships with 5-6 of them, and capital ships MAY be able to kill bombers (or even fighters) IF they are lucky and the pilots are really crap and don't really dodge.
That way you'll remove people's "need" to PvP whore anything smaller than destroyers or even gunboats in capital ships because they'll be too difficult to hit. Conversly, capital ships will be able to ignore/shrug off all but the largest formations of bombers. Then you end up with good, tough capital ships for extended capital to capital battles and RP, a use for fighters (keeping those bomber formations off the caps), a use for bombers (in reasonable numbers instead of 1-2), and less people whoring capital ships except to fight other capital ships, simply because they can't do anything in them except really fight other capital ships.
Obviously it'd all need to be ironed out and stuff, but I think that might work.
/signed :yahoo: + what i said 'bout gunboats
' Wrote:You've missed the whole idea of the thread. The idea here is to have 1 special flagship per faction. There would still be the normal ships, but on top of that, there would be a super-flagship. Nobody is saying all battleships should be removed, and replaced with only 1 flagship.
not missin the point here. I just think that adding extra firepower is unnecessary while the community still has problems with properly using the existing ones.
factionized flagships - Enko - 07-27-2008
I agree with Kuraine
factionized flagships - kingvaillant - 07-27-2008
Kuraine's idea is good, and if they were to be some kind of special flagship (not allowed to leave their nation system, for example Liberty) Giving a Flagship armor upgrade would be good.
factionized flagships - Blodo - 07-27-2008
Making capships anti-capship only would work. Refire halved and perhaps weapon speed reduce on some weapons, and it's perfect. If dodging fighters could ignore capship fire on them while fighting off other fighters, it would make the entire capships vs fighters thing obsolete, which would be awesome. It would also create even more need for caps to have fighter support.
In short, signed. Awesome idea.
factionized flagships - Niezck - 07-27-2008
/Signed @ Kuraine
/Signed @ King
Make regular capitals heavy ordnance and maybe give out a flagship armor upgrade to each of the 5 (6) houses.
factionized flagships - Leo - 07-27-2008
' Wrote:Can the Xenos get a factionalized Eagle?
If you get one, I'm joining.
Anyway.
Not a bad idea, but I can see where the others are coming from, this only widens the gap between the casual player, and factions. I joined WoW, was forced to join a raiding faction at 60 (before BC XPac) just so I could get good gear.
I'm going to say not a good idea, but not a bad one either. Kind of in an idea "funk"
Bah, the heat hath fried my brain.
~Leo
factionized flagships - n00bl3t - 07-28-2008
' Wrote:/Signed @ Kuraine
/Signed @ King
Make regular capitals heavy ordnance and maybe give out a flagship armor upgrade to each of the 5 (6) houses.
One for each faction I'm guessing?
I'd support an un-nerfing of caps. Perhaps a flagship based thing if the caps were universally available. As in unofficial factions and indies can have them as well.
factionized flagships - thierry007 - 08-01-2008
the armor increase is good.... but remove the silly bomber 2 torp slot:Pbombers drop bombs dont they:D or just rename them to torpedo fighters .... capships need to be better fighters are good as they are capships well um yeah IMO they need to be better . what is a war without cap ships fighting? (im not refering to real life) .. Battleships show dominance a big navy has big and alot of battleships *Rheinland* and yeah while im being crazy atm make a neutral shield good vs nothing bad vs nothing just average to all shields die to fast IMO well yeh you never cant guess what types of weapons ur enemy has... or you need to have all shields like 1 for liberty 1 for tau's 1 for reinland etc etc....
factionized flagships - AdamantineFist - 08-01-2008
Mmm.. I like Kuraine's Idea. Combine that with the heavily anti-fighter/bomber gunboat I've been an advocate of, and things will make a lot more sense around here.
factionized flagships - Colonel Z.e.r.o. - 08-01-2008
' Wrote:Err.. I wasn't saying Freelancer was real. I was pointing out that the "Just a game" principle is inconsistently applied. You don't have to be sorry for stating your opinion.He's probably saying that people seem to get (sound) pissed awfully quick when their arguments or gameplay is interrupted by opposing ideals and proposals.