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RE: Cardamine treatment roleplay is dumb - Jack_Henderson - 02-17-2016
Megalomania... everywhere.
RE: Cardamine treatment roleplay is dumb - nOmnomnOm - 02-17-2016
Scourge srs if the cardi goes into atmosphere it will be harmless. You would need a buttload to do any damage and the counter would be just to burn the gas or counter or chemically or .... Pee into rags and breath that in lel.
Chemical warfar would be short term when talking about cardi unless you produce enough to jet it into the jet stream and make it not dissipate. That would be a lot and it would be damn expencive. A cheaper alternative would be to poison water supply tbh.
RE: Cardamine treatment roleplay is dumb - Sciamach - 02-17-2016
(02-17-2016, 08:33 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote: Scourge srs if the cardi goes into atmosphere it will be harmless. You would need a buttload to do any damage and the counter would be just to burn the gas or counter or chemically or .... Pee into rags and breath that in lel.
Chemical warfar would be short term when talking about cardi unless you produce enough to jet it into the jet stream and make it not dissipate. That would be a lot and it would be damn expencive. A cheaper alternative would be to poison water supply tbh.
Please go research how Fusion weapons detonated in upper atmospheres are bad
Please go research how liquidized contaminants injected into an atmosphere can be devastating
Please go research fallout
and while you're at it, go research the Atmosphere Depravation Warhead for some extra credit. It won't be on the test but the subject matter is similar enough that it will help with your comprehension
see me after class
Edit: Come to think of it, I'm explaining this poorly. Lemmie just refer to the wiki:
Quote:Planet Braillia used to be the main settlement of those who wish to join the Reapers' cause. Being descendant of the Outcasts, most Reapers are addicted to Cardamine. In an attempt to transform the planet into a second Malta, the Reapers detonated massive fusion bombs laced with Liquid Cardamine particles throughout the atmosphere, intending to "seed" the planet's biosphere with Cardamine. The plan however failed catastrophically, scattering hazardous radioactive isotopes planetwide.
A small Reaper population numbering no more then 500 people still resides on the planet, in sheltered underground structures. It is expected that the surface will remain uninhabitable for several decades at least, until the planet purges the contaminants naturally, or until the atmosphere can be filtered. The dust cloud has also triggered a global cooling trend, causing much of the native flora to die off.
Key word there is "fusion" for those of you still whacking eachother in the head with wooden number/letter blocks
RE: Cardamine treatment roleplay is dumb - nOmnomnOm - 02-17-2016
(02-17-2016, 09:00 PM)Scourgeclaw Wrote: The plan however failed catastrophically, scattering hazardous radioactive isotopes planetwide.
exactly.
So why waste cardimine that is your income when you can just do something more better suiting.
RE: Cardamine treatment roleplay is dumb - Findarato Veneanar - 02-17-2016
Am i right in guessing that the cross cult would be for turning more worlds into cardamine planets, while most of the rest of the outcast population would want to keep all the production to outcast space?
RE: Cardamine treatment roleplay is dumb - Sciamach - 02-17-2016
(02-17-2016, 09:09 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote: exactly.
So why waste cardimine that is your income when you can just do something more better suiting.
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yeah okay, if you're too busy trying to find fault in everything I say that you're willing to say something this nonsensical, then I'm not wasting anymore of my time.
(02-17-2016, 09:13 PM)Findarato Veneanar Wrote: Am i right in guessing that the cross cult would be for turning more worlds into cardamine planets, while most of the rest of the outcast population would want to keep all the production to outcast space?I'm not 100% sure where you got that idea but the short answer is No.
The more involved answer is as follows:
Cardamine does not grow in harvest-able quantities or qualities on any planet besides Malta. Malta has a very specific set of conditions in the soil oceans and atmosphere that allow Cardamine to grow and thrive. Nowhere else in Sirius has these exact conditions to allow for such a thing to happen reliably. Planet Kitahara is the closest world to Malta in all of Sirius; it shares many of the same attributes and a very similar biosphere, and the Cardamine grown there is so pathetically weak compared to Maltese-grown crops that it's unfit for use.
Now, Malta right now maintains a monopoly on the Cardamine trade. No sensical Maltesian would wish for any world besides Malta to have cardamine growing on it naturally, as that would endanger the monopoly. Combine this with the facts mentioned before about it's particular tailoring to Malta and you can easily come to the conclusion that Cardamine will never really grow in any worthwhile sense outside of Malta itself.
Now, the reason Cardamine stands as a potentioal bio-weapon is it's properties in it's liquid state. Now, this is delving into nomad territory so you'll have to ask Conrad and Huggie about any changes but as last I knew it; Liquidized Cardamine took the form of a noxious acid that is rather hazardous for not only humans but also for any lifeform in the surrounding area, basically killing off anything besides Nomad tissue which for reasons that I haven't properly read up on, are immune. Factor that in, and you can see how it would work as a weaponized agent.
At some point, I need to gather together all the frequent misconceptions and facts about Cardamine possible and throw it into a "What you need to know about X" style video to prevent any further confusion. Time will tell if that comes to fruition or not.
Either way, hope that cleared things up for ya.
RE: Cardamine treatment roleplay is dumb - Lythrilux - 02-17-2016
(02-17-2016, 09:49 PM)Scourgeclaw Wrote: Now, the reason Cardamine stands as a potentioal bio-weapon is it's properties in it's liquid state. Now, this is delving into nomad territory so you'll have to ask Conrad and Huggie about any changes but as last I knew it; Liquidized Cardamine took the form of a noxious acid that is rather hazardous for not only humans but also for any lifeform in the surrounding area, basically killing off anything besides Nomad tissue which for reasons that I haven't properly read up on, are immune. Factor that in, and you can see how it would work as a weaponized agent.
Quote:LIQUID CARDAMINE
Cardamine, while normally ingested as part of the atmosphere or as a fine powder, can be rendered into a liquid substance. As a liquid it is shot directly into the bloodstream via injections and provides much more of a 'high' than the same dosage in regular form creates. This liquid is more easily transportable and more discrete than the masks which Outcasts normally have to use while away from Malta. This also provides an easy way for Outcast smugglers to supply the drug to House inhabitants without the telltale masks. Liquid Cardamine still alters the user's genetic structure and creates unavoidable dependency.
It doesn't state any sort of weapon potential in it's infocard, nor does it say it's hazardous for humans.
RE: Cardamine treatment roleplay is dumb - Sciamach - 02-17-2016
(02-17-2016, 10:02 PM)Lythrilux Wrote: It doesn't state any sort of weapon potential in it's infocard, nor does it say it's hazardous for humans.
Either the RP has evolved beyond that and has changed, or the infocard is accurate and whats been done in the Nomad Lore document needs to be re-evaluated. I agree, there's a disconnect, and that's up to Huggie and/or Conrad and the Devs to figure out. I'm going off of whats used in the Nomad Lore document, that's just how I've always worked when it came to the topic.
That disconnect is the reason nomad bases were the only place to get the item in-game for the longest time.
RE: Cardamine treatment roleplay is dumb - Thyrzul - 02-17-2016
(02-17-2016, 09:09 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote:(02-17-2016, 09:00 PM)Scourgeclaw Wrote: The plan however failed catastrophically, scattering hazardous radioactive isotopes planetwide.
exactly.
So why waste cardimine that is your income when you can just do something more better suiting.
What if I told you they may not want to eradicate the entire population of a whole planet, rather turn them into customers?
RE: Cardamine treatment roleplay is dumb - Laura C. - 02-17-2016
(02-17-2016, 10:15 PM)Thyrzul Wrote:This might be quite a risky move in my opinion.(02-17-2016, 09:09 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote:(02-17-2016, 09:00 PM)Scourgeclaw Wrote: The plan however failed catastrophically, scattering hazardous radioactive isotopes planetwide.
exactly.
So why waste cardimine that is your income when you can just do something more better suiting.
What if I told you they may not want to eradicate the entire population of a whole planet, rather turn them into customers?
If population of whole planet would become addicted to cardi, then supplies of it would become one of the priorities for government. And there are always two options how to obtain vital resources you don´t produce yourself.
1. Buy it.
2. Conquer the source.
So especially if this would happen to more than one house, it could easily end with "Lets team up with Corsairs, conquer Malta and divide cardamine fields between us" alliance.
Just my theoretical idea
