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RE: My opinion on why the game has constantly been losing players - Sanctions - 07-09-2018
On a more serious note...
For ones who don't know, some explanations on Goldern Coin and Puerto del Sol:
First one was a Molly (as I recall) PoB, which was placed upon a Jump Hole. Once you've entered the system (as a hostile), you'd get one-shot from the stationary Cerb turrets.
Second one was practically the same, but covered the O41->Gamma JH, with Cerbs as well.
Both are good examples of poor implementation without any regulation on how the PoBs should be placed and how not. Why there were no such rules regarding PoBs being placed somewhere to one-shot entering reds, I have no idea.
And why would anyone need to insert crappy unneeded systems between, say, Gamma and Alpha / Alpha - T37, to make people spend more time travelling to hostile systems in order to get into troubles, I have no idea as well.
RE: My opinion on why the game has constantly been losing players - Karlotta - 07-09-2018
More than wonder why someone did or didnt do something in the past, yous should wonder about why existing problems aren't being addressed now, and contribute in trying to fix them.
RE: My opinion on why the game has constantly been losing players - NoMe - 07-09-2018
my opinion, only my opinion.
you create money yes
you try to create something yes
you creat something, as exemple my img base in magellan as been destroyed by misinterpretation of the utc time (1 afternoon to play for players to destroy it) 1 month to build it, by exemple never gauls in magellan or with very much difficulty
yes young players need money to buy a decent ship to play but the only idea is to have money but for sure, yes new blood is needed
other exemple
CoteAzure was a core4, i have destroyed it, why, because noway with it after jh moving, i have been accused to not have enough rp, my time was only vastted in supply, no rp possible
council civilian cabane a core2 has been pulverised by admins, like it, it was not at their choice well placed but for me very important to supply cote azure
No need to say as always, you have cheated ! if there are again some player who helped me to build it, never cheat has been used to build it!
i understand that player need to fight, it's a goal for sure, there are many factions who like and are good in! corsairs OC mollys scra unioners core etc etc etc, but if you have nothing to fight, it is a bit annoying no?
Who create the interest ingame? you are with who, or against who?
by example, to create any interest, in help for the 2 roussillon base, i have several time offered or money, big money or ship depend which sort with different pilots or 3000 cargo or kujira
perhaps it could be necessary to explain very well how the mod work and how you can and you must use the money, it's not only to buy a bs
by example
i had a good coadministrator for coteazure, he has sold 2 jumpdrive and a survey built by me, he made money for him to supply the base, but the base was it's base too. so he understood nothing about how it works!
by exemple too, i have 0% under my NoMe image, why not to create a young player level?
and again, it's in my bad english, in my language i could explain it better!
why i'm here again? to see, or just to fight sometime, to be frank, i don't want to vaste mly time for nothing one more time again, no evolution is possible ok!
i have asked to move my base elswhere, i had 2 propositions for protectorat to continue the story of coteazure but as answer from (admins) i had a big NO
et pourtant, it is possible to move a base in a different system
other example needed?
RE: My opinion on why the game has constantly been losing players - Sanctions - 07-09-2018
(07-09-2018, 10:27 AM)Karlotta Wrote: More than wonder why someone did or didnt do something in the past, yous should wonder about why existing problems aren't being addressed now, and contribute in trying to fix them.Mistakes from the past still echo within the game, that's how I see it.
Contribution is another thing. Even while we realize the actual problems, it takes big responsibilities for ones who are ready to act.
And we're also lazy.
And we also won't ever be able to decide which directions to go for as we all usually have different opinions. Actions have to be quite radical if we want the situation to really change. Would there be courageous people at power to implement that all, I doubt it.
Personally for me, enhanced .85 would be the easiest solution, maybe at least as an external experimental environment, to see if people are interested. And I'm ready to pay for the hosting. Yes, that will disattract people from the general server, and that wouldn't be adored by the Admin team, I suppose.
Whole situation reminds me of Retail WoW vs Vanilla WoW dilemma. And world tends to be leaning towards the second one for a reason.
RE: My opinion on why the game has constantly been losing players - Karlotta - 07-09-2018
Making a 4.85 server will only turn an empty server into two even more empty servers.
Jump hole connections can be changed, tech nerfs made more liberal, guns rebalanced to what they were, restarts and ID-repping made so "repping" is useful again.
Doing that isn't so hard. The hard thing is dealing with the influential people who are opposed to everything that makes "their" stuff a little more inconvenient for themselves, even if it would greatly benefit the server.
RE: My opinion on why the game has constantly been losing players - Sanctions - 07-09-2018
Yeah, I remember hearing such things from them somewhen around .87: "You don't respect our efforts etc."
Who cares for such efforts if they drive the game into oblivion.
RE: My opinion on why the game has constantly been losing players - Laura C. - 07-09-2018
Reasons why playerbase is decreasing over the time are much more complex and thinking that simple reverse of mod to .85 version would magically solve problems this game and community have, and playerbase would suddenly start growing in significant numbers, is quite naive in my opinion. Every time I see such sentiment, it reminds me old people I see in the city bus complaining about stuff and claiming "things were much better when we were young, everything sucks these days".
Also, what then? We would be playing .85 forever? That would hardly be interesting in long-term. Especially when one of the most loud complaints people had back in .85 times was that mod is stagnating (because waiting for .86 was really long) and no longer interesting due to no development so players were leaving "because there is nothing new to do".
RE: My opinion on why the game has constantly been losing players - NoMe - 07-09-2018
"because there is nothing new to do" ?
RE: My opinion on why the game has constantly been losing players - Karlotta - 07-09-2018
(07-09-2018, 11:24 AM)Sanctions Wrote: Yeah, I remember hearing such things from them somewhen around .87: "You don't respect our efforts etc."
Who cares for such efforts if they drive the game into oblivion.
Yeah, "you don't respect our efforts" is a common reply here.
What people who say that don't understand is that pointing at a problem to help solve it isn't the same as not respecting someone's effort. It's respecting them enough to not treat them like a 5 year old who drew a picture, but like someone who has the capacity to take and understand criticism.
The funny part is that many people who say "you don't respect other people's efforts" are only talking about their own effort and don't respect other peoples efforts by blocking their criticism/contribution (effort which also takes effort) even when they know perfectly well that it would lead to improvement.
RE: My opinion on why the game has constantly been losing players - Swallow - 07-09-2018
It's just that the stories barely even leave our own forums and / or are not captivating enough to bring people's attention to the thing. I mean, look at Dwarf Fortress stories, they literally make one want to play it on their own.