Quote:I have three lynxes and Gallia is my favourite house. I keep speculating on the idea of creating a Gallic internal faction but keep getting held up due to other commitments

(12-17-2018, 11:15 AM)Riehl Wrote:

(12-17-2018, 11:08 AM)Antonio Wrote:

(12-17-2018, 11:05 AM)Riehl Wrote: Is there someone holding y'all at gunpoint and forcing you to devolve this thread into accusations of Oorp bias?

Funny coming from a guy who hates Gallia like a plague and never logged to help them at any point.

You must be confusing me with someone else.

I have three lynxes and Gallia is my favourite house. I keep speculating on the idea of creating a Gallic internal faction but keep getting held up due to other commitments. The Gallic lore are the best in the game and the Gallic systems are the most beautiful, even if they have some lane-length issues.

I've even advocated for Gallic systems not to be cut in the past.


Hell, I wrote out a huge lore document for the First Gallic Civil War.


Edit: I get that it's tempting and I do it too occasionally, but we really all should try to not use "no u" or "that's rich coming from u" when someone makes a point we don't agree with.

• Cruisers have now been under the command of actual players, and not NPCs, which excluded any aiming issues.
  
• The cruisers, starting from the second wave, had significantly weaker armor than the initially spawned NPCs.
  
• Freelancers have been excluded from participation for either of the sides.
  
• The outcome was pretty much a draw, yet another "zero sum scenario", where either of the sides got what was proposed: Beurvay have been turned into a wreck, but Athos have been relocated to New London. Nothing really changed for the Gallic side, it even became easier for their allies to operate on the theater.
  In fact, none of the sides were harmed significantly with the outcome of this event.
  

(12-17-2018, 11:16 AM)Antonio Wrote: Don't you want a lawless system in Gallia then? That's exactly what this outcome achieves - makes Provence something like Omicron Delta but in Gallia.

(12-17-2018, 11:19 AM)Riehl Wrote:

(12-17-2018, 11:16 AM)Antonio Wrote: Don't you want a lawless system in Gallia then? That's exactly what this outcome achieves - makes Provence something like Omicron Delta but in Gallia.

Antonio, I want that. Gallia should have its own version of Delta/Bering/Cassini.


I dislike how the event gameplay turned out due to the ambiguities involved. Don't think my opinions are me trying to rig a certain outcome. A Royalist victory would definitely be the most interesting as far as I'm concerned.


I just believe that it'll reduce net salt if we remove all the ambiguities.

(12-17-2018, 11:03 AM)Antonio Wrote: When Gallia/Corsairs lost HALF the dps because Nova torpedoes were sitting in spot or not tracking at all, drastically changing the outcome, they were told to "suck it up".
When Gallia/Corsairs lost at least 6-7 players after the first wave because of the NPCs lagging out and the server crash, which resulted in them losing a lot of dps through a 3-hour event overall, they were told to "suck it up".
When the 10th cruiser was conjured out of thin air to force a draw, Gallia/Corsairs were told to "suck it up".
There was no mention or offer of a remake, and Gallia almost fully lost the event rather than what was latter announced as a draw.

Now anti-Gallic forces have similar obstacles that aren't even close in magnitude compared to the ones in NL, and suddenly the other side wants preferential treatment. It's nothing but hypocrisy.

(12-17-2018, 11:17 AM)Pito-Chan Wrote: You were told to "suck it up". And you indeed sucked it up, didn't even consider saying a word about it.

To an extent, do not forget, that after the first wave the event have drastically changed. To be precise, the following changes were taken:

• Cruisers have now been under the command of actual players, and not NPCs, which excluded any aiming issues.
  
• The cruisers, starting from the second wave, had significantly weaker armor than the initially spawned NPCs.
  
• Freelancers have been excluded from participation for either of the sides.
  
• The outcome was pretty much a draw, yet another "zero sum scenario", where either of the sides got what was proposed: Beurvay have been turned into a wreck, but Athos have been relocated to New London. Nothing really changed for the Gallic side, it even became easier for their allies to operate on the theater.
  In fact, none of the sides were harmed significantly with the outcome of this event.
  

If you are not pleased with it's outcome - have some guts to openly state your opinion.
If you don't have the guts - you should just suck it up, which is exactly what you did.
You have no one to blame but yourself.

(12-17-2018, 11:39 AM)Lythrilux Wrote:

(12-17-2018, 11:17 AM)Pito-Chan Wrote: You were told to "suck it up". And you indeed sucked it up, didn't even consider saying a word about it.

To an extent, do not forget, that after the first wave the event have drastically changed. To be precise, the following changes were taken:

• Cruisers have now been under the command of actual players, and not NPCs, which excluded any aiming issues.
  
• The cruisers, starting from the second wave, had significantly weaker armor than the initially spawned NPCs.
  
• Freelancers have been excluded from participation for either of the sides.
  
• The outcome was pretty much a draw, yet another "zero sum scenario", where either of the sides got what was proposed: Beurvay have been turned into a wreck, but Athos have been relocated to New London. Nothing really changed for the Gallic side, it even became easier for their allies to operate on the theater.
  In fact, none of the sides were harmed significantly with the outcome of this event.
  

If you are not pleased with it's outcome - have some guts to openly state your opinion.
If you don't have the guts - you should just suck it up, which is exactly what you did.
You have no one to blame but yourself.

The first wave counted, and the final wave had an additional cruiser. That removed any chance of a Gallic victory when the event had even finished yet.

• All the issues were taken into consideration after the first wave, and were generally fixed throughout the following waves.
  
• The event have ended as a draw, with the proposed outcomes for both sides brought to be live in the server environment.