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Zoner Bounty RP - Jinx - 08-12-2009
corsairs in 49 playing as a protector is HARDCODED into our RP. - the recent treaty ( that no one but zoners and TBH know about ) even weakens the hardcoded links between the corsairs and the zoners.
look at it from that point of view. - for a long long time, bretonia was totally unaware of gran canaria. - they simply didn t know if its existance. - recently they realized it was there - and sort of claimed it... . then we got to an agreement with bowex which acted on behalf of the bretonian goverment. ( made particularly sure that bowex was RPing on behalf of the goverment officially )
the goverment granted the zoners the legal claim of GC ( so anyone that agrees with the goverment agrees that GC is property of zoners ) - and in return, the bret goverment got a little enclave for refugees - the details are pointed out in a RPed treaty.
in general. - we MUST NOT turn hostile to zoners, not cause we zoners don t want it ( oh, some zoners would be delighted to have an opportunity to fight more ) - but cause its CANON / vanilla. bretonia knows that zoners act on all sides. - but they don t do anything about it. - that is vanilla, that is also disco.
respectful RP also is not to do one sided roleplay. - when you want to wage war against another faction, you ask them if they want to wage war with you. - everything else is like a lone battleship at a hostile station stating it has just destroyed this station.
so you can turn bretonia hostile to zoners - but only if zoners agree to it as it is totally and utterly against canon. ( remember? - the order was not allowed to become non hostile to liberty as part of canon - only on a personal basis ) - if you play canon, you must turn a blind eye on certain things.
Zoner Bounty RP - tansytansey - 08-12-2009
You know, bountying Zoners has got to be the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Good luck trying to dock with a Freeport ever again, Zoners neutrality is reknowned throughout the universe. It's respected, because they help everyone. They're like the Salvation Army. Remember, Corsairs have civilians too, the ones that aren't seen in space. They're the ones starving, they're the ones the Zoners are delivering aid too.
Zoner Bounty RP - Benjamin - 08-12-2009
Hello everyone.
Please don't mix your in-character and out-of-character business! I posted just yesterday that this is basically the biggest problem on the server, and here it is again. If you can't play the game without bringing huge amounts of baggage in to it and out of it, you ruin it for yourself and quite likely a lot of other people. When I want to play the game, I just want to play around, fly my spaceship, talk to people and shoot other spaceships. I don't want people getting upset in real life because of the particular way I flew my spaceship. It ruins the fun for me.
So please, everyone, really really learn how to keep your in character and out of character opinions seperate, because you are spoiling discovery.
Goodbye,
Benjamin
xxx
Zoner Bounty RP - bluntpencil2001 - 08-12-2009
' Wrote:You know, bountying Zoners has got to be the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Good luck trying to dock with a Freeport ever again, Zoners neutrality is reknowned throughout the universe. It's respected, because they help everyone. They're like the Salvation Army. Remember, Corsairs have civilians too, the ones that aren't seen in space. They're the ones starving, they're the ones the Zoners are delivering aid too.QCP don't dock on Freeports. Besides, they don't help everyone, they take advantage of everyone's needs. QCP don't need Zoners.
Zoner Bounty RP - Spear - 08-12-2009
OK I've just read the entire thread, quite funny, some of you should seriously tone down on the hostility.
All I see in this is interesting RP. The QCP are officially denounced by her Majesty and her Government, we all know this is political ploy to allow the QCP to act and Bretonia to deny liability, all great RP with basis in history. Britain's privateers would harass forces belonging to neutral countries that were percieved as against British interests and his or her Majesty would officially deny all knowledge or responsibility and secretly applaud her Privateers.
This incident should be about is roleplay, not rants about meta-gaming and OORP insults. If Mal chooses to leave that is his choice, no one else's, personally I'm sad to see him go but I highly doubt that this little incident is the only factor in his decision.
The Zoners must launch diplomatic pressure on Bretonia's Government to deal with the QCP, threaten to cease trade, threaten impose trade blockades into Bretonia (surely the Zoners can cut off every route into Bretonia, the Freeports are ideally situated in border systems to run blockade operations if needed). This is the appropriate in RP response. If it can be proven that in RP with evidence that QCP are indeed still being supported by the Bretonia Government then the Zoner's have cause to properly accuse Bretonia and declare hostilities. At the moment the Zoner's should consider the QCP their enemy and deal with them as such.
Frankly I'm amazed at the OORP hostility shown in this thread, return to roleplaying.
Zoner Bounty RP - bluntpencil2001 - 08-12-2009
' Wrote:Bluntpencil. You need to look at this differently than you currently are. This has only been brought up because of the QCP attacks and bounty. Zoners have always been the same, we have not changed and I remember that we were on relatively good terms before this fiasco. Corsairs are treated like everyone else. That is the original Zoner faction RP. Are you saying that we need to change this. I think thats for the admins to decide.Of course it is Zoner RP, but how do you expect Bretonia to react?
And if you are going to complain over how we are dealing with them then you need to actually go into our discussions and look at why we are doing it. One of the major issues is that Corsairs and Zoners are very close to each other. Zoners are primarily a peaceful, good relations type while the corsairs are a more shoot and give me money kind of people. We need to deal with them to keep them happy or else what else can we do otherwise. Just die?
Your nation never had any real problems with us before except with a naming issue.
The Zoners kicked the Unioners off of Freeport 2 due to international pressure, do the same with Corsairs in 49!
Zoner Bounty RP - reavengitair - 08-12-2009
For what I first saw of them, I've seen the QCP as a great addition to the mod.
However, nowadays, people dislike them. Why?
Heh, *hops on indy privateer*
Zoner Bounty RP - jammi - 08-12-2009
' Wrote:Good point.Actually, if there were civilians selling terrorists bullets, giving them bomb fuses, feeding them and giving them a bed, you're right, the military wouldn't kill them all. They'd kick the door down, flood the place with tear-gas, drag the people out by their hair and arrest them.
All I see here is an idiotic attack on the wrong party for unfounded reasons. Instead of pissing off the zoners, and causing loads of political issues for your 'country' (house), you should have just kept dealing with the Corsairs themselves on an individual basis.
Let's use another analogy here... You're an soldier, and you're at war with terrorists. You know terrorists are using civilian houses as shelter. What you're doing is killing the civilians hoping it will change things, when you should be sticking to dealing with the terrorists themselves.
Is there not a single brain cell to split between your entire faction?
Unfortunately, with game mechanics it's impossible to do that to a Freeport, so killing people is the next best alternative, seeing as I can't see any Zoner agreeing to be 'arrested'.
Zoner Bounty RP - Kwijibo - 08-12-2009
' Wrote:Where is the metagaming?
I hear this word a lot, but see nothing but accusations.
Libel, I say!
Didnt you read the first post .. did ya ? How the hell they claim Zoners are openly allied with the Corsairs ? What intel got they to prove it? Nothing!
It's like the Order would spread news about they know Bretonia is openly allied with the Nomads. So they and whole Sirius invade it to prevent Bretonia from infiltration of the Nomads.
But hey, please dont take my stupid thoughts to create a new Rp-idea. ;-)
Greetz,
Charles
Zoner Bounty RP - reavengitair - 08-12-2009
Quote:It's like the Order would spread news about they know Bretonia is openly allied with the Nomads. So they and whole Sirius invade it to prevent Bretonia from infiltration of the Nomads.
Since when?
Im behind the times. Good conspiracy theory though...
But seriously. This has happened. Lets see how this whole zoners v qcp thing works out, then we'll complain later.
I seriously don't see the problem.