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+---- Thread: GRN vs BAF,KNF,CR - Saturday Jan 8 2011 2000 GMT (/showthread.php?tid=6172)
GRN vs BAF,KNF,CR - Saturday Jan 8 2011 2000 GMT - Grimly - 09-27-2009
' Wrote:The big indy KNF BS that screwed up the event.<_<
I may add "Thanks for ramming and firing on me" and "Sorry for doing my job of supportive battleship" and I forgot this one "Sorry for building a ship that rape you".
Let's be a bit more serious, I was not moving, Fumio was just looking for leaving the fight and came close to me. Where have you ever seen that fighters would follow hostile one through battleship defenses ?
If you were looking for a fair fight, I was ready to let it be, staying on my safe escape point role. Until you went after Fumio, you were all 5k from me and 6k from the BAF BS. It's a right to escape safe in this event.
I did open fire only when your 4 fighters were into a 100m range at the same time.
Next time, don't try to blame me, think about what you did wrong. You don't fight next to a station right ? Same here, you break chase when you're too close of an enemy battleship.
I took as much pleasure to spam you my solaris as I had while you all rammed me, that mean, no fun at all !
When the Kent were here in Coronado, all were going right cause we didn't ran after you when fleeing from battlefield. Aren't the BAF smart enough to do the same ?
GRN vs BAF,KNF,CR - Saturday Jan 8 2011 2000 GMT - Dab - 09-27-2009
' Wrote:I was to busy to look around... What did he did?Pretended to 'spectate' in a KNF BS, then flew in and shot all the BAF with Solaris turrets when he wasn't supposed to get involved in the event. He also resupplied several of the KNF.
EDIT: Grimly posted when I was writing.
Grimly.. Why were you there in the first place? I specifically told you; NO CAPSHIPS. I let you come in to spectate because I assumed you wouldn't abuse the privilege. Events have special rules; If you weren't invited, you don't get involved. If you're getting rammed and fighters are hitting you on accident because another one flies circles around you, you need to get out of the fight area. That's common sense to begin with. You shouldn't have been close enough to get rammed. You were doing that so you had an excuse to open fire. Furthermore, rules dictate; An attack is a CD hit or your shield drained 50%. 4 Templars can't hurt you, even if they wanted to.
Now you've gotten yourself kicked out of all further BAF/KNF events because you violated the event with a BS after being told not to bring it, but switch to a fighter or bomber (and I know you have a KNF fighter, as I fought it last time). If you don't want kicked out of events, you shouldn't participate in behavior that interrupts them. You're lucky there wasn't admin intervention in this, for you did violate rules. Events are property of the official factions running them. You want to join in with a BS, you ask first, not fly in and start shooting a few Templars with Solarises without giving warning.
If you do show up to another BAF vs KNF event, on ANY of your characters, we'll simply ask an admin to beam you away.
We try to keep these events as fair as we can, and fun for everyone, especially in light of how heated it has gotten in the past, and the flames that came from that. Your actions are precisely the kind of behavior we are trying to avoid in these events. So you're no longer allowed to participate them. Being in an event is a privilege, not a right.
GRN vs BAF,KNF,CR - Saturday Jan 8 2011 2000 GMT - Grimly - 09-27-2009
' Wrote:Pretended to 'spectate' in a KNF BS, then flew in and shot all the BAF with Solaris turrets when he wasn't supposed to get involved in the event. He also resupplied several of the KNF.
I did [color=#FF0000]-NOT- move in the whole fight.
I left the fight with 1980 bots instead of 2000 cause when it was already over, I gave few bots to Fumio for he hull up just in the end of the event.
Now, until you have a real proof of me running to you, please SHUT IT UP ! I was IMMOBILE except while being rammed.
YOU ****ed up this event alone running to me.
GRN vs BAF,KNF,CR - Saturday Jan 8 2011 2000 GMT - Dab - 09-27-2009
' Wrote:I did [color=#FF0000]-NOT- move in the whole fight.That's exactly the problem. When the fight got near you, you should have moved away, not looked for an excuse to fire on people. You shouldn't have been present in a BS in the first place. Being rammed because you wouldn't leave the battle area isn't sufficient reason to ruin an event.
GRN vs BAF,KNF,CR - Saturday Jan 8 2011 2000 GMT - Grimly - 09-27-2009
' Wrote:That's exactly the problem. When the fight got near you, you should have moved away, not looked for an excuse to fire on people. You shouldn't have been present in a BS in the first place. Being rammed because you wouldn't leave the battle area isn't sufficient reason to ruin an event.I think you didn't get the "why I get in battlefield".
YOU were all after Fumio. Fumio were after me to get out of this fight in one piece. Again, I'm sorry, but moving would not have changed the result, a BS moves at 90m/s, a horde of fighters moves with an average of 180m/s with the dodge.
GRN vs BAF,KNF,CR - Saturday Jan 8 2011 2000 GMT - Dab - 09-27-2009
' Wrote:I think you didn't get the "why I get in battlefield".Oh, I got it just fine. You were participating in an event you were told to stay out of. That's 'why I get in battlefield.'
' Wrote:YOU were all after Fumio. Fumio were after me to get out of this fight in one piece. Again, I'm sorry, but moving would not have changed the result, a BS moves at 90m/s, a horde of fighters moves with an average of 180m/s with the dodge.Yes, they were all after Fumio. Fumio flew towards you so that he could fly around you to dodge them.. This is because you didn't move. Once the fight got close to you, you should have CRUISED to distance. At least 3k. Not at 90m/s, but 350m/s. You were told to stay out of the fight, that's what you do. When it gets close, you get out. You don't use a KNF's actions as justification to fire on BAF. You were told to stay out of the event, so that's what you do. You don't have a right to 'cover' the KNF just because he was trying to retreat. Getting away alive is his problem, not yours. If BAF want to chase him, they have every right. You, however, were told not to get involved, so you did NOT have the right to shoot ANY BAF, no matter the circumstances.
Frankly put; You had no reason to be there, you used Fumio running as an excuse to shoot BAF. You brought the BS there because you had every intention of shooting BAF with it at some point, despite being told not to. You say you were there to 'cover their retreat,' but what you don't understand is that you had no right to cover them in any way. It was an event. Events are made so that both sides have equal numbers and fleet composition. Your BS was even told NOT TO COME to the fight, but you did anyway. You then used Fumio as an excuse to shoot BAF because you just wanted some kills.
If what you did wasn't bad, why would KNF be the ones kicking you out of the event? They did because you completely ruined an event with your BS. You did so against the orders of the official factions that run that event.
You were punished, now take it like a man and move on. There are plenty of other events to go ruin.
GRN vs BAF,KNF,CR - Saturday Jan 8 2011 2000 GMT - reavengitair - 09-27-2009
That was actually meant to be RPed as me FLEEING the battle. I was expecting the BAF to stop following me and pick another target.
GRN vs BAF,KNF,CR - Saturday Jan 8 2011 2000 GMT - Enko - 09-27-2009
To be very blunt, this is turning into a flame fest not something about the event/upcomming event
[color=#FF0000]SHUT UP AND GET ON WITH SOMETHING ELSE
Thank you
GRN vs BAF,KNF,CR - Saturday Jan 8 2011 2000 GMT - pruskis92 - 09-27-2009
Dab, I lol'd.. Like BAF battleship wasn't trying to blast me while one of your fighters was flying around him and trying to cruise his engines without getting killed. (A little notice, I can't deal so much damage as 4 your fighters to a BS)
But without it, I think event was successful.
GRN vs BAF,KNF,CR - Saturday Jan 8 2011 2000 GMT - casero - 09-27-2009
As I said, I'm gonna apply the 4th right of the official factions.
I told you to stay at Stokes, you asked me to come with us to see the show, I said yes, however, I told you specifically to limit your actions to "talk", "target assignations".
If Takashi was trying to flee it was his responsability, and if the BAF was running after him, that's better, once they were at more than 10k from us, we would be allowed to blast the transport.
I clearly said "//don't get bots from the BS" you were not going to participate in any way in the event, but talking. And more than that, you fired on the BAF templars.
Quote:I may add "Thanks for ramming and firing on me" and "Sorry for doing my job of supportive battleship" and I forgot this one "Sorry for building a ship that rape you".
1) What's the big deal if they rammed on you while they were chasing a fighter, if you were not suposed to fight?
2) Supportive battleship, by talking and assigning targets, which doesn't include passing bots or shooting at their ships.
3) Thanks for saying that, because before to the event you said something like "BAF doesn't know it's a solaris BS". You were predisposed to shoot to BAF, you insisted to coming with the fighter group to the battle spot, and you finnaly fired on BAF templars. I don't care if you have personal affairs with BAF, you are not gonna bring them to the event anymore.
@Karolis: The BAF BS shot at you after the event was done, and after Grimly fired on the templars.