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RE: So in the end, Barge / Corvo changes - useful or no? - sasapinjic - 03-02-2016
(03-02-2016, 02:36 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote: if you open it up for all then guaranteed there will be silent traders flying them.
Quote:5. Make it mandatory that it has Barge in name (example : Barge-Voyager).^ Cant be silenced then.
RE: So in the end, Barge / Corvo changes - useful or no? - nOmnomnOm - 03-02-2016
How will knowing the system the barges are in help?
RE: So in the end, Barge / Corvo changes - useful or no? - Hannibal - 03-02-2016
(03-02-2016, 03:00 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote: How will knowing the system the barges are in help?it won't help since they can't use trade lanes..
why are we even discussing barges?it was explained pretty well why were they removed,lets focus more on what we have now and how we can fix it
oh and ..i flew barges..i'm glad they were replaced..even jumped traded with 2 at once ,landed on planets and undocked without blowing myself up..quite a technique
RE: So in the end, Barge / Corvo changes - useful or no? - sasapinjic - 03-02-2016
(03-02-2016, 03:00 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote: How will knowing the system the barges are in help?^ Couse it will gater activity there . They will be large , slow , full of cargo/money and cant use trade lines , therefore forced to go trough system at slow pace , perfect targets for any decent pirate .
If i have Pirate player nearby , i will login immediately when i see Barge , since i know it cant leave system fast , and i will not be only one , there will be other pirates to , not to mention escort and law ships that will show up for chance for some action .
(03-02-2016, 03:07 PM)Hannibal Wrote:^ Nothing cant be fixed until Docking modules and back and fixed , as far as Bustard is concerned , or batteries with no cargo weight have being implemented for Jump drive and survey system for Bustard/Corvo .(03-02-2016, 03:00 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote: How will knowing the system the barges are in help?it won't help since they can't use trade lanes..
why are we even discussing barges?it was explained pretty well why were they removed,lets focus more on what we have now and how we can fix it
oh and ..i flew barges..i'm glad they were replaced..even jumped traded with 2 at once ,landed on planets and undocked without blowing myself up..quite a technique
And , you may get tired from Barge , so , you are not interested in it anymore but some people never fly it , and they will like to try .
RE: So in the end, Barge / Corvo changes - useful or no? - Hannibal - 03-02-2016
(03-02-2016, 03:24 PM)sasapinjic Wrote: ^ Couse it will gater activity there . They will be large , slow , full of cargo/money and cant use trade lines , therefore forced to go trough system at slow pace , perfect targets for any decent pirate .since can't use lanes it will make harder to track even more since they will avoid being tracked(not fly near the lanes)those avoiding any interaction possible,even npcs...since those can be nasty too..even more so..
If i have Pirate player nearby , i will login immediately when i see Barge , since i know it cant leave system fast , and i will not be only one , there will be other pirates to , not to mention escort and law ships that will show up for chance for some action .
^ Nothing cant be fixed until Docking modules and back and fixed , as far as Bustard is concerned , or batteries with no cargo weight have being implemented for Jump drive and survey system for Bustard/Corvo .
And , you may get tired from Barge , so , you are not interested in it anymore but some people never fly it , and they will like to try .
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1.try it in single player,i can say this..most of the times you don't feel like flying/moving and when you do...its just plain awful ..
2.batteries might be the only way...
RE: So in the end, Barge / Corvo changes - useful or no? - nOmnomnOm - 03-02-2016
Inb4 I see more complaints of " I got pirated for 50 mill or die while flying a barge and then 5 mins later again the same"
I dont think the community can handle a barge.
RE: So in the end, Barge / Corvo changes - useful or no? - sasapinjic - 03-02-2016
(03-02-2016, 03:42 PM)Hannibal Wrote:^ Exactly , it will be harder to track , but not much harder . Barge pilot will be forced to go straight line betwen 2 JG/JH at snail speed , and pirates will have plenty of time to search him , especially if Barge decide NOT to go straight line to minimize risk .(03-02-2016, 03:24 PM)sasapinjic Wrote: ^ Couse it will gater activity there . They will be large , slow , full of cargo/money and cant use trade lines , therefore forced to go trough system at slow pace , perfect targets for any decent pirate .since can't use lanes it will make harder to track even more since they will avoid being tracked(not fly near the lanes)those avoiding any interaction possible,even npcs...since those can be nasty too..even more so..
If i have Pirate player nearby , i will login immediately when i see Barge , since i know it cant leave system fast , and i will not be only one , there will be other pirates to , not to mention escort and law ships that will show up for chance for some action .
And , since Barge has high HP , single pirate will not be able to take it down , and therefore , will have to hunt Barge in group , and it is also much easier to find it if more hunters search same prey . Familiar Barges will also be cough quite easy ,if experienced pirate knows usual destination .
Quote:try it in single player,i can say this..most of the times you don't feel like flying/moving and when you do...its just plain awful ..Never fly one , but i read it was so big every NPC bump in it , and since it was slow turning , i can imagine nightmare there . Since , i don't propose old Barge , but smaller version , perhaps UP to twice bigger that Bustard , and with turning speed 50% worse than average Super Train .
Quote:Inb4 I see more complaints of " I got pirated for 50 mill or die while flying a barge and then 5 mins later again the same"^ Ha ha , people will always complain about something .
If they are so foolish or greedy to trading with Barge without proper escort , they deserve to be pirated every 5 minutes !
Let them complain !
RE: So in the end, Barge / Corvo changes - useful or no? - Xenon - 03-02-2016
(03-02-2016, 06:48 AM)Westgate Security Wrote: I have few small Preposals here.... :
1. Make barges not 40k, but atleast 20k
2. Leave it's speed as it is now, but make charging into cruise speed 2x less time.
3. Make it look otherwize (I donno make it look like ship, not junk like it was). And smaller so it could fit in tradelane.
4. Make it avalable for everyone and price like it was (502 mil) or even 1 billion so people wouls trade hard to get it. (Avalable for everyone is making it not SRP).
What will happend after that:
More Piracy. Barges will be primary targets for people as they are slow. They will fly thrue trade lanes yes, BUT if you distrupt trade lane barge won't be able to run.
Me personally will hunt every barge in Sirius if you do that.
Also Even if you pirate barge on 20% (as i always do), barge pilot won't be shouting that you robbed him as other 80% is not that much small sum....
Also 20k ship will allow mining companyes fill their bases with ore faster and mining will take a bit less time. Even 2 people (Miner and barge) can just sit in Mining field and sell ore, miner will just fill barge all time and barge pilot will sell it's cargo.
I think this will be a good usage for that ship.
EDIT: If you make barge drop it's cargo..... Well..... Barge pilot will think alot before flying again
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+1 Here!
RE: So in the end, Barge / Corvo changes - useful or no? - Epo - 03-02-2016
(03-02-2016, 07:44 PM)Mark Hamann Wrote:+1(03-02-2016, 06:48 AM)Westgate Security Wrote: I have few small Preposals here.... :
1. Make barges not 40k, but atleast 20k
2. Leave it's speed as it is now, but make charging into cruise speed 2x less time.
3. Make it look otherwize (I donno make it look like ship, not junk like it was). And smaller so it could fit in tradelane.
4. Make it avalable for everyone and price like it was (502 mil) or even 1 billion so people wouls trade hard to get it. (Avalable for everyone is making it not SRP).
What will happend after that:
More Piracy. Barges will be primary targets for people as they are slow. They will fly thrue trade lanes yes, BUT if you distrupt trade lane barge won't be able to run.
Me personally will hunt every barge in Sirius if you do that.
Also Even if you pirate barge on 20% (as i always do), barge pilot won't be shouting that you robbed him as other 80% is not that much small sum....
Also 20k ship will allow mining companyes fill their bases with ore faster and mining will take a bit less time. Even 2 people (Miner and barge) can just sit in Mining field and sell ore, miner will just fill barge all time and barge pilot will sell it's cargo.
I think this will be a good usage for that ship.
EDIT: If you make barge drop it's cargo..... Well..... Barge pilot will think alot before flying again
+1 Here!
RE: So in the end, Barge / Corvo changes - useful or no? - Reid - 03-02-2016
I like the changes. The Barge was nerfed beyond usefulness. You could get more supplies quicker to a POB using a 5K, and trading with one took hours with not enough payoff. I'm happy it was replaced with a civilian jumper, I've seen more Bustards in the past week than I've seen Barges in the past 4 years. They're getting a lot more use as a civilian carrier than a 40K ship that can hardly move
And I'm indifferent on the Corvo, the change does effect me at all. But the Zoners already have a cruiser, so meh