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GRN feedback thread - Snak6 - 05-23-2012
Jsut wanted to drop this here:
http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg834/scaled.ph...0&ysize=640
http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg339/scaled.ph...0&ysize=640
Be sure that people working on bounties are not hostile to you. Vice-verse goes to Reavers, but they just't have feedback thread.
EDIT: Ignore my idiotic spelling. :lol:
GRN feedback thread - Daedric - 05-23-2012
Jonh, your feedback looks more like it isn't specifically about the GRN| and more about the fact that you and some others don't like the fact Dab is still there. I was in Gallic High Command chat for months. Guess what? It was utterly dead. Not just GRN| not talking. No one talking, including you and the other official faction leads.
The GRN has always, always had activity issues. They don't have solid activity levels like the [LN] do, they have highs and lows. This is due to a variety of issues. I can't speak on dealings as of late because to be honest, I left Gallic High Command as I wasn't needed there, didn't have the time to help the people there, and didn't have any desire to be part of another leadership cadre. When I was there, while Dab was the leader we all worked on things cooperatively. I remember working on the laws for Gallia very well. It was fun.
As for Jeremy, you ask why he took the leadership seat without knowing what he was doing. I answer that by saying that most of us took up leadership roles within factions without knowing what we were doing. If we all waited till we knew 100% of what the job entailed there'd be a ton of leaderless factions.
I'm willing to bet part of Jeremy's mood is having you come here and blast him and the GRN| when you could have easily taken all this to him in private. Is this the place for this? In part yes, in part no. A good deal of your issue seems to be personal dislike and personal anger because you're not being included. The rest is decent insight into what you view as wrong. The former doesn't belong here; the latter does and should be taken into account by Jerm & crew.
GRN feedback thread - Charos - 05-23-2012
I've stopped reading after Dab's wall of text because... too long. I've been a faction leader and I know the hardships of being one. When I was the Molly leader I made sure that there is atleast one or two people online and we'd always have fun (people logged in after they saw us ^_^). You know, flying patrols can be fun. People see you logging and doing patrols and they'll come after you, people are always there waiting to gank you!
Jeremy, you said you got RL problems and can't fulfill your leader duties - pass the baton to someone else that's not Dab/Justice League/Neil Barnes. GRN needs to form a proper HC because right now all the wrong people got it and it's killing the activity, leadership that sucks will kill activity.
Quote:As I have said before: if you are going to bitch about the activity of MY FACTION, then you best be prepared to HELP WITH IT. otherwise, take a hike, because the relentless bitching does little besides me playing a parrot and worsening the already bad headache I have.
That attitude sucks, you don't make a faction by yourself so deal with it. It's your job to make sure that the faction's activity is within acceptable limits not somebody else's. What Phoenix did is to give you a wake up call to rise from your beauty sleep and do something right, Gallia fails because of GRN's failure to be a proper faction.
GRN feedback thread - Reacher - 05-23-2012
' Wrote:What Phoenix did is to give you a wake up call to rise from your beauty sleep and do something right, Gallia fails because of GRN's failure to be a proper faction.
Gallia fails because very few people want to be there.
If its so bad then make an indie GRN group and fill the void.
GRN feedback thread - Daedric - 05-23-2012
I'd suggest you take a gander at the GRN's activity. They are fufilling their requirements as laid out by the server administration. Claiming Gallia fails because of a single faction's troubles is an idiotic statement.
As you said, it is the faction leader's responsibility to make their factions active. Blaming a faction's inactivity on the GRN| fully contradicts what you said. You're also completely ignoring the fact that their inactivity isn't merely the result of leadership. Other Gallic pvp factions have the same issues. This, as already pointed out by everyone is in part due to Gallica's poor set up.
Jeremy's point is simple. Quit complaining about activity. The majority of Gallia's factions have activity issues due to a variety of reasons. Some he can fix and has already said plans are in the works. Others he has no control over. Give them man a flipping chance to make the fixes people are wanting; instead of railing at him that he sucks and can't do crap right. That is what sours people's attitudes and makes them have responses like he has.
Jeremy - I agree with Charos that you need a HC that is filled with capable people that are active. That way if RL hits you in the face, they can hold the fort while you take care of it. This is how OSI stays afloat when one of us decides we're taking a Disco hiatus. I know many other factions operate in the exact same fashion.
GRN feedback thread - Barbarossa - 05-23-2012
Remove certain ship restrictions (Rank'n'stuff) so more people can flood in instead of going their own ways and create indie faction like me...
GRN feedback thread - Wraga - 05-23-2012
Just a fast question:
Does the Junker ID contains rephack against gallic corporations, GRN, etc?
GRN feedback thread - Snak6 - 05-23-2012
' Wrote:Just a fast question:You should refer to new rephack chart here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key...VOaEM1bnc#gid=2
Does the Junker ID contains rephack against gallic corporations, GRN, etc?
It is probably not yet implemented to the server, but will be soon, probably.
GRN feedback thread - DarthBindo - 05-23-2012
I don't have any knowledge of the internal politics of Gallia or whatever, so I have no opinion on that...
But while the whole "There's no pirate activity" was a perfectly valid reason for the low activity in 4.85, it's not anymore.
You're a military faction, involved in a war with another military faction, one that has great activity levels on the official side and great participation with their indies, and it's not even like it's hard to get a fight started.
Log on, get to Leeds, and I guarantee you, the BAF war machine will roll out a fleet for you to go pew pew with.
Trust me.
I'm a Molly.
GRN feedback thread - dodike - 05-23-2012
' Wrote:Activity
If we take a look at the activity tracker, we see a LOT of Capital ship usage. It is a general policy for respected military factions to use a limited number of capital ships. Seems like GRN has a different policy, as you can even fly a tagged cruiser at the lowest rank possible. The rule allowing official factions to shoot transport now changed, but the reason official military factions were an exception was because they showed some responsability with their usage.
' Wrote:If that is your policy, so be it. I strongly disagree with such regulations, because heavy capship use from official (military) factions is heavily frowned upon.Why should it be? Heavy capship use doesn't necessarily indicate improper capship deployement. The GRN represents military force of the strongest power at war at two fronts at least. Council has battleships access, Bretonia has battleship access.
I don't see why GRN could not show the supposed strength in game. Should the GRN respond with sticks because the activity tracker doesn't appeal to a bunch of players?
I would rather see some evidence of wrongdoing when deploying heavies rather than a general statements that capships are bad.