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A certain death penalty suggestion. - Munificent - 08-30-2011

' Wrote:I consider others around me, unlike you.

That's just uncalled for.


A certain death penalty suggestion. - CzeReptile - 08-30-2011

' Wrote:1. players should be attracted to fly smaller ships as well.
2. or just make caps unflyable without escort (big battlemachines are not meant to fly through space lonely)
3. + (sadly) the bigger part of cap. pilots on the server are bad roleplayers/RP like fools in my opinion
4. no faction/house would give big expensive war manchines to idiot having inRP expensive/powerfull stuff should require RP knowledge and skill since there is nobody to controll that... keep the numbers in general lower with such stuff
edit// some stuff added
1. Its up to everybody what they wish to fly.
2. They are unflyable without heavy escort.
3. define bad roleplayer, thats just mean. Like all snub pilots roleplay, mah ship tail.
4. And how exactly you propose to take all the caps from people who have them? For your consideration
Number of Rheinland Battleship 54
Number of Osiris 177
Number of Bounty Hunter Battleship 58
Number of Hacker Spyglass 28
Number of Outcast Dreadnought 102
Number of Zoner Juggernaut 79
Number of Liberty Carrier 29

I made my point there.


@Munificient - you are trying to murder those who fly caps. I wont have this as job. No thanks. I got eight battleships, will you pay for my day of having fun in them? Hardly.


A certain death penalty suggestion. - Munificent - 08-30-2011

' Wrote:1. Its up to everybody what they wish to fly.


' Wrote:@Munificient - you are trying to murder those who fly caps. I wont have this as job. No thanks. I got eight battleships, will you pay for my day of having fun in them? Hardly.

The idea is they are your battleships, so you should be responsible for their upkeep. God, you wouldn't even need to PAY if you didn't get them destroyed. Also-

' Wrote:I'm not trying to murder the Capwhore population, I LOVE Battleships. Eh... You know what? The more I think about this the more unsure I am that it's a good idea.

' Wrote:Number of Rheinland Battleship 54
Number of Osiris 177
Number of Bounty Hunter Battleship 58
Number of Hacker Spyglass 28
Number of Outcast Dreadnought 102
Number of Zoner Juggernaut 79
Number of Liberty Carrier 29

:lol:



Going off topic slightly I liked your ideas for player driven dynamic economy features:D


A certain death penalty suggestion. - EisenSeele - 08-30-2011

If Respawning a BS costs 70 mil, give us BS missions that pay 70 mil.


A certain death penalty suggestion. - Agmen of Eladesor - 08-30-2011

' Wrote:Number of Rheinland Battleship 54
Number of Osiris 177
Number of Bounty Hunter Battleship 58
Number of Hacker Spyglass 28
Number of Outcast Dreadnought 102
Number of Zoner Juggernaut 79
Number of Liberty Carrier 29
Is it considered a bad thing that I have (or had - 2 of them got wiped for inactivity) ships in 5 of those categories at one point?

EDIT:
' Wrote:If Respawning a BS costs 70 mil, give us BS missions that pay 70 mil.
I've gone on missions many a time where you can, between the mission and the cards from kills, pick up 10 million or more at a time. So that's not that big of an issue.


A certain death penalty suggestion. - gafwmn - 08-30-2011

Not wanting to read the whole 9 pages....While I think this would be an interesting thing to test,my greatest underlying fear is that the PvP elite with their unlawful gang would have a field day going against every lawful cap they could find,reguardless of what sector of space said cap was in.

Having said that,I believe that the forums,while already overloaded with more than enough whining about things,would be ,at best,ten times worse,and I wouldn't even want to think about the exponentional increase in the admins workload reguarding the increase in sanctions being filed.

I'm sorry,but I personally don't think we are ready for such an endevour.Just reading how things have been going for the past several months is,as I see it,all the proof needed.


A certain death penalty suggestion. - CzeReptile - 08-30-2011

Really, it just wont work. Some folks to prove their ossimness actively hunt caps. You need to lose most of playerbase? APprove this idea.


A certain death penalty suggestion. - SMGSterlin - 08-31-2011

@Agmen, the only BS missions that pay that much are Order, Corsairs, Outcasts, and possibly BHG, in the borderworlds. Most factions that have battleships do not have these missions.

I'm not completely opposed to the idea, but the prices need to be cut quite drastically.

Perhaps this.
  • Fighters and bombers - death penalty - 300,000.
  • Freighters - death penalty - 500,000.
  • Transports (3600 cargo and below) - death penalty - 700,000.
  • Transports (3601 cargo to 5000) - death penalty - 1,000,000.
  • Liners - death penalty 1,500,000
  • Gunboats - death penalty - 2,000,000.
  • Cruisers - death penalty - 3,000,000.
  • Battlecruisers - death penalty - 4,000,000.
  • Light battleships - death penalty - 5,000,000
  • Heavy battleships - death penalty - 6,000,000
  • Barge - death penalty - 6,500,000

Remember, this IS just a game, not real life, and it should not imitate real life so much. This is Freelancer, not Second Life.

High death penalty prices will just cause people to get mad, and either quit Disco or sell their ships out of anger, which is bad.

Also, the penalties should only count if another PERSON gets the kill, not an NPC. But, as has been said, it will be abused quite massively, so even the prices I have are probably too high.

Disco of Disco does have this, or had it, but they also give you free CAP 8 battleships and like a billion credits. You don't get that here, you have to spend your time grinding to afford a battleship here.


A certain death penalty suggestion. - Markus_Janus - 08-31-2011

So while we are going to charge Battleships soo much money when they die, will we then balance it by giving them the combat capability capships "should" have?


A certain death penalty suggestion. - SMGSterlin - 08-31-2011

Agreed, buff caps.