(03-27-2013, 06:50 PM)Snake Wrote: Hmm I also wonder if its possible to modify the Characters. Maybe if your Character gets destroyed by a Player, you'll eventually, loose it. Maybe that Char will get automaticly deleted. That might stop the lolwuts from engaging without a good reason, more RP would appear instead of fights . Hihi, anyway I guess nobody would agree with this idea so xD I actually wonder if its possible to kinda block the Char for 2 Hours if you get destroyed by a Player. Hmm.. You know after you get destroyed... Nah nevermind bad Idea, lets see how things will turn out, nice work btw.

(03-28-2013, 08:52 PM)Snake Wrote: Yeah but you also need to think, that they risk their own ship! A slight Lag and their ship is gone, I guess they'll think more than twice before they'll engage someone. Another thing is the speed of the Capital Ships... I mean Capital Ships have Bigger engines than fighters, seriously. Shouldn't they be faster in Cruise speed? Maybe even a little? Equal with the Light Fighter maybe, 400 cruise speed would be even enough, allthough I'd suggest 450

(03-04-2013, 09:46 PM)Gheis Wrote: Prepare for the end of the world.

Revised Wrote:5.7 A player who was killed in a PvP fight must not enter the system where the fight took place with any of the characters on his/her account(s) until 2 hours has passed from the time of his/her destruction.

If the player respawns in the same system, he/she must leave the system within 10 minutes of his destruction without attacking anyone, except in self-defense. Other players are not allowed to attack one who is leaving.

If the enemy (character or characters) leave the game before two hours have passed, the player may return to the system. If the enemy then returns to the game they may request the player leave the system again until two hours have passed since the original time of death.

5.8 A player who was killed in a PvP fight must not attack the enemy (character or characters involved in the death) with any of the characters on his/her account(s) for 2 hours. Self-killing, friendly fire kills or death to NPCs during a PvP fight are counted as normal PvP deaths.

The intent of the new rules are to shorten the down-time keeping a player away from a a system following death. Also, re-engaging is now redefined as being engaging the same characters within two hours of death, not the same players. If you change to a different character, you can be shot at again by the player you killed within those two hours.

Clarification:

• Scenario 1: I, LHI|Gheis.Mace, kill XA|Duct.Tape in Colorado. I then log into another of my ships, Gheis.Mace. Because my names are visibly similar and easily identifiable as so, XA|Duct.Tape may not re-engage me, and may not re-enter Colorado without my permission.

• Scenario 2: I, LHI|Gheis.Mace, kill LR-Contrived.Name in California. I then, before the two hours are up, switch to OSI-Resolute captained InRP by Gheis Mace, and am engaged by LR-Contrived.Name in a separate interaction. Because the ship names are not notably similar (LHI|Gheis.Mace v OSI-Resolute), I cannot expect LR-Contrived.Name to have known I was the same person - or even the same character - and so no violation of reengagement has occurred. Because I'm notably different as well, LR-Contrived.Name can assume I've logged off and return to California if he so wishes.

So far as asking and allowing returning to system, this simply puts into the rules the gentlemen's agreements that were in place already. If none of the combatants involved in your death are online, you may return to the system you died in. If they return on the same characters, then you must leave if they ask you to.

Abuse of this ability will be severely punished. If you are reporting someone in violation of this, we suggest screening the time-stamped death message, the time-stamped request to leave, any conversation following (or enough to show a lack thereof), and a screen showing the killed player still in system. Players who do not leave in the 10 minutes after the initial death will be handled as normal. (And by that I mean "with a spear")

Players who have killed may also choose to waive the two-hour rule and permit their target to return to the system. This has always been the case, but remember, if you waive it and allow the character you killed to come back, you cannot then, without a second death, request that player leave. We have access to server logs.

(03-06-2013, 06:56 PM)Jack_Henderson Wrote: Where is the problem?

Tell them they cannot come back. It's in the rules.

Quote:If the enemy (character or characters) leave the game before two hours have passed, the player may return to the system. If the enemy then returns to the game they may request the player leave the system again until two hours have passed since the original time of death.

I read it that way:

You kill the pirate on your house navy ship in a move to protect e.g. mining in the system.

The pirate respawns (= "returns to the game") and you green message him: "Please do not come back to the system in the next 2 h".

Done. Zombie-Apocalypse averted.

That was easier than I thought... *burns all the Zombie Apocalypse Survival books*

(03-06-2013, 01:38 AM)Veygaar Wrote:

(03-05-2013, 10:30 PM)SMGSterlin Wrote:

(03-05-2013, 10:27 PM)Hasteric Wrote: That'd mean that the players who killed them would have to log on again just to tell them to leave. Not too awesome.

Which classifies as powergaming to me.

I see no problem.

I agree with this.

If the player group (#A) is only logging on to prevent a player (#B) who is actually playing the game constantly from being in an area, then vacating the area themselves(#A Leaving the area), then all they've amounted to is making that system have one less player for area interaction.

Lawfuls will have to stick around and play as their chars instead of answering emergency chats en'mass then vacating the area once again.

(03-06-2013, 11:09 AM)Jack_Henderson Wrote: What exactly is the problem?

The example that sparked the discussion was that someone protects ships, shoots the pirate, then logs off. So the pirate could come back.

How about you simply tell the pirate that you shot in green: "Good fight. Please do not come back to harrass the people I protected. Feel free to come back to rp, but no piracy."

I mean... just talk to each other.

And... I don't think it is okay for the pirate that was killed to turn up as the "undead pirate, 2nd attempt" once the victorious defender logged off. From a roleplay pov, the attacker has been destroyed, the danger has been cleared.

But... as I said: just tell him and it is no problem.