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Gallic Remnants - Pavel - 11-25-2013
Let's visit land of imagination for a while and think how storyline would look if jumpholes to Gallia collapsed, and someone destroyed gates from Lyonnais to the Taus and Kusari. Samura, BD, FA, Liberty...Doesn't matter.
Gallic remnants still occupy all of Leeds system and Taus. Their fleet is large, but cut off from supply center, their ammunition and fuel reserves start dwindling. It would be logical of the remnant force to immediately stop any major strikes on Bretonia-Liberty border and entrench, trying to at least kep their current conquered terrains.
Land army would either entirely retreat from surface of Leeds or try to maintain starport with some neighboring facilities only, with every day harassed more by partisans.
Battleships would guard every jumpgate entrance, with IMG stations in the Taus being fully occupied, perhaps while they still have supplies Gallics would force defenceless Kusari to open its borders and position battleships at Tau29 and New Tokyo jumpgates in Kyushu system, to ensure Kishiro cooperation. Occupation force would come under fire from FA, Dragons, Chrysanthemums, maybe even Samura, which seeing weakening of Gauls and Kishiro's rule would start civil war to annihilate Gallic gaijins, punish Kishiro traitors and restore monarchy, supported by foreign powers.
Planet Harris, while possesing no good defensive terrain like Leeds does, would fall to Gallics and be turned into entrenched stronghold housing Remnants' HQ.
Interesting element are Outcasts, who would harass Remnants from northern direction...unless some sort of agreement, NAP even, is signed, allowing OC to smuggle Cardamine in exchange for much needed funds and resources.
Remnants would be attacked by Bretonian, Libertonian, Colonial and IMG forces from the south, by Kusari pirates on the west and perhaps by the Outcasts from the north. With time they'd be forced to retreat further and further into the Taus.
Please note this alternative story is fruit of lulzing on "what if" topics on skype. Comment, judge that story's probability, propose own versions...I'm curious community's opinions on that subject.
RE: Gallic Remnants - SummerMcLovin - 11-26-2013
Wooo what-if scenarios.
Tau-44 (you will likely have discounted it because you incorrectly believe it is a guard system) would be a better place to hole up, steal the shipyard from the IMG, use the resource fields, and that planet full of fish is pretty tasty.
(Stolen from Leaders chat a bit) With them less of a threat, not everyone will be as keen on destroying them. Liberty for one, probably would only go as far as helping Bretonia get Leeds back. Maybe only if they get Cambridge 8|
Cut off from their families and the orders of the King, I'd actually expect a lot of the GRN to defect or surrender. While some might say go to the Council, their cause is a bit redundant now that the Kingdom isn't there to overthrow. Probably run off to the peaceful houses (that's a funny term), and/or form a "let's hope the jumpholes realign" group to see their loved ones. On that note, no jumpdrives I assume?
Bretonians would probably be in for a longer haul for revenge, obviously the CR would be too, and if what I said about 44 is right, they'll keep going until the end.
RE: Gallic Remnants - Pavel - 11-26-2013
(11-26-2013, 12:04 AM)SummerMcLovin Wrote: Tau-44 (you will likely have discounted it because you incorrectly believe it is a guard system) (...)
It doesn't really matter tbh, mod lore and gameplay reality are two different things like fire and water.
RE: Gallic Remnants - Tunicle - 11-26-2013
Very interesting but...
Let's visit land of imagination for a while and think how storyline would look if jumpholes were actually incubators for Nomad spawn. Nomads spread from Omicrons utilising Jump Gates as new nurseries and causing them all to fail. Gallia becomes less problematic as the aliens initiate a second coming.
Using the new nurseries the Nomads having watched and collected data infect the two strongest arms of humankind the Gallic and Liberty fleets. Their fleet and the newly infected fleet is now large and forces humankind to bury past differences and unite, the Council together with a reinstated Kusari emperor achieve controlling power of the remaining fleets. Rheinland and Bretonia subservient as their fleets are recently depleted in their respective wars.
The House territories are rewritten, Nomads dominating north and east with the central ex-Liberty enclave surrounded. Zoners take on major logistics in the outer fringes with the remaining house corporations try to support the now diverse human fleets.
Battleships would guard every jumphole, with IMG stations in the Taus being fully occupied as front against Nomads, their infected fleets and their Outcast sympathisers. Council and Kusari try and bolster the area with Corsairs holding the southern areas and Rheinland/Bretonia harrying the Liberty infection.
RE: Gallic Remnants - Sabru - 11-26-2013
(11-25-2013, 11:53 PM)Pavel Wrote: Let's visit land of imagination for a while and think how storyline would look if jumpholes to Gallia collapsed, and someone destroyed gates from Lyonnais to the Taus and Kusari. Samura, BD, FA, Liberty...Doesn't matter.
Gallic remnants still occupy all of Leeds system and Taus. Their fleet is large, but cut off from supply center, their ammunition and fuel reserves start dwindling. It would be logical of the remnant force to immediately stop any major strikes on Bretonia-Liberty border and entrench, trying to at least kep their current conquered terrains.
Land army would either entirely retreat from surface of Leeds or try to maintain starport with some neighboring facilities only, with every day harassed more by partisans.
Battleships would guard every jumpgate entrance, with IMG stations in the Taus being fully occupied, perhaps while they still have supplies Gallics would force defenceless Kusari to open its borders and position battleships at Tau29 and New Tokyo jumpgates in Kyushu system, to ensure Kishiro cooperation. Occupation force would come under fire from FA, Dragons, Chrysanthemums, maybe even Samura, which seeing weakening of Gauls and Kishiro's rule would start civil war to annihilate Gallic gaijins, punish Kishiro traitors and restore monarchy, supported by foreign powers.
Planet Harris, while possesing no good defensive terrain like Leeds does, would fall to Gallics and be turned into entrenched stronghold housing Remnants' HQ.
Interesting element are Outcasts, who would harass Remnants from northern direction...unless some sort of agreement, NAP even, is signed, allowing OC to smuggle Cardamine in exchange for much needed funds and resources.
Remnants would be attacked by Bretonian, Libertonian, Colonial and IMG forces from the south, by Kusari pirates on the west and perhaps by the Outcasts from the north. With time they'd be forced to retreat further and further into the Taus.
Please note this alternative story is fruit of lulzing on "what if" topics on skype. Comment, judge that story's probability, propose own versions...I'm curious community's opinions on that subject.
slight idea edit.....
rather than cutting them off completely. maybe have one singular entrance left into gallia, possibly somewhere in the far north of sirius.
The idea being that they either have to move their supplies further, fall back and consolidate round the only route (you could involve some of the IMG stations in the taus here maybe) now or retreat fully back to gallia.
you could even evolve from there with having a schism occur among the commanders of the forces stuck far from the only route home. you could have the troops split 2-3 ways.
These sections would be:
1. The 'Zealots'. the really hardcore gallics who want to keep pushing and attacking
2. The 'Secessionists'. Those troops who want to stop fighting and settle down. (Included in here are the ones who defect to the council)
3. The 'Loyalists'. The troops who want to continue the fight but realise that the best option is to retreat.
To get some actual clarity from it, the adminz could even set some rules (like they did with the OC civil war) and possibly have people list which group their character sides with.
RE: Gallic Remnants - Lythrilux - 11-26-2013
I like it, it sounds good and I've had similar what if thoughts.
Shame we'll never see this :<
RE: Gallic Remnants - Highland Laddie - 11-26-2013
Well, if the devs were actually planning a scaling back from the whole Gallic intrusion into the game, I think this would be a good start.
I think shrinking the Disco universe down a bit would certainly do some good for giving the place a more "full" feeling, and big ol' Gallia is sure ripe for the chopping block.
I said this before, but I'd be in favor of getting rid of most of it, with perhaps the exception of the following systems: Ile-de-France, Burgundy, Dauphine, and Languedoc. All the rest is just too much empty space.
RE: Gallic Remnants - Enkidu - 11-26-2013
(11-26-2013, 05:08 PM)Highland Laddie Wrote: Well, if the devs were actually planning a scaling back from the whole Gallic intrusion into the game, I think this would be a good start.
I think shrinking the Disco universe down a bit would certainly do some good for giving the place a more "full" feeling, and big ol' Gallia is sure ripe for the chopping block.
I said this before, but I'd be in favor of getting rid of most of it, with perhaps the exception of the following systems: Ile-de-France, Burgundy, Dauphine, and Languedoc. All the rest is just too much empty space.
Keep Marne, it's a beautiful system.
RE: Gallic Remnants - Highland Laddie - 11-26-2013
Quote:Keep Marne, it's a beautiful system.
Its beauty is irrelevant if no one ever goes there. It serves no real purpose but to sit there...empty and beautiful. Waste of space. I'd rather you give me an ugly system filled with players and activity.
There are more systems I'd be willing to part with, but as this thread pertains to Gallia, that's more pertinent.
RE: Gallic Remnants - kikatsu - 11-26-2013
Well if they still hold Leeds I am not sure they really have supply issues, isn't the Leeds system one of the industrial powerhouses of Sirius? The planet itself is covered with factories, surely they can just hijack their production capabilities and convert them to service the GRN.
Actually with that in place now the GRN can turn Leeds into a forward supply production facility and not even be as reliant on supply chains from Gallia anymore. Granted they are still needed, but you can get your stuff right there.