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New PC? - Turkish - 08-03-2008

Right now the PC I'm using is aged, and its aging eve more as we speak. So, we all know what that means? Yes we do, time for a new build. I've been going over it for the past day or two, kudos and thanks to McNeo for his help and thoughts. What I'm looking for is feedback and suggestions. I'm open to just about anything but I'd rather not break the $1,000 mark by too much if I can.

Right now I have about three LGA775 builds floating around my head, but I'll only be posting one for now, please, tear it apart, look it over and make suggestions. If you're going to be posting links to products I'd appreciate it if you'd take the time to link to a Canadian retailers, NCIX and Anitec are my preferred shopping grounds.


So, lets get started?

Motherboard:
DFI LP Dk P45-T2RS
The DFI LP Dk P45-T2RS is on the top of my list, its a keen motherboard with a full feature set. But likewise its more expensive than some other, and equally capable counterparts like Asus' P5Q Pro.
$189.99

CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400
The E8400 packs a good kick, recent price drops make it even more of a steal than before.
$198.36

Video Card
Diamond Radeon HD 4850
The 4850 is one of the best best cards on the market for its price, and its highly appealing to me. I am however put off by the idle and peak temps.
$189.99

RAM
Mushkin HP PC2-6400
Two sticks of 2GB each, excellent customer support as well as rock solid performance and one of the most dedicated share holders I've ever seen(MushkinGreg I love you).
$104.99

Power Supply
Mushkin HP-550
550W modular power supply, nice and affordable with a solid performance reputation. Couple that with Mushkin's customer service.
$84.99

Case
Coolermaster CM 690
Good airflow and solid construction, also bottom mounting PSU? A personal fav of mine, but I'm completely open to suggestions.
$78.54

Hard Dive
Hitachi Deskstar P7K500
Simply the most affordable option I found.
$85.99

Optical Drives/Additional Components
LG G-H20NS15
Cheap and it should do its job.
$30.44

ASUS WL-138G-V2 Wireless G Network Adapter
Most affordable Wireless card I could find, that I trusted. By this point money is getting tight, but it's still a key component.
$29.25



That should be everything, if you see or feel I've missed anything pipe up, any feedback is good feedback. I've been out of this game for awhile, so I may have made a few unwise choices in this little wish list. With all applicable taxes the total should be: $1,111.64


New PC? - Xqt10ner - 08-03-2008

Good setup, you can just add an aftermarket cooler on the 4850. Another option to drastically improve speed is to RAID your HDD's in raid 0(Striping) configuration. I use raid on all the gaming machines I build, mostly with 3 HDD's.


New PC? - looqas - 08-03-2008

You are pretty much set there Turkish.

I'd ponder a bit more about the mobo though. Unless you need all the bells and whistles you could go way cheaper. Of course if you are a over-clocker then you need a quality mobo. The one thing that would make me cringe from the mobo is that it only supports 800MHZ DDR2 mem. There's no upgrade path for you later.

For comparison I have an Asus P5KC, which supports 4 x DDR2 (upto 667/800/1066 MHz) or 2 x DDR3 (800/1066/1333 MHz) memory sets. It over-clocks very well and really I have no complaints whatsoever. And it's even cheaper (148 at ncix). So unless you really need the features of DFI take a good look at P5KC for example.

Another point is that I'd think a bit longer if you'd rather go with quad core than dual. I know the days of quad core are not on top of us yet, but I get the feeling that you keep your setups long (2-3 years) and changing a processor is always not really on top of upgrading list after you've made the initial choice.

I'd go with quad if I were you. The loss of extra hertz will not be the bottleneck in your gaming, be that crysis or other modern game. It's the graphics card.


New PC? - Turkish - 08-03-2008

Now, with a few changes made thanks to your suggestions its time for an update I think.

Motherboard
ASUS P5Q Pro
On the cheaper end of things, but still in keeping with what I tend to like who I prefer to buy.
$154.40

CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
Honestly not that much more expensive than the E8400, looks keen to me.
$219.95

Video Card
Diamond Radeon HD 4850
$189.99

RAM
Mushkin HP PC2-6400
$104.99

Power Supply
Mushkin HP-550
$84.99

Case
Coolermaster CM 690
$78.54

Hard Drive
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB
Slightly less space but likewise cheaper. It shouldn't be an issue.
$56.95

Optical Drives/Additional Components
Asus DRW-1814BL
Cheaper than the last model I chose, and seeing as I'm a fan of Asus this just seems to fit.
$26.95

Asus WL-138G Wireless
Just a choice of V1 over V2.
$25.95

Optional
Kingwin RVT-12025
Seems to be an OEM of the Xigmatek HDT-S1283, slightly cheaper but equal performance.
$31.99

With all the additions and subtractions the bottom line has gone down and I'm personally more happy with this concept. Shoot back if you have more ideas. Discounting the RVT-12025 the total comes to: $1,055.80


New PC? - Boss - 08-04-2008

Looks good, but I myself would go for a 9800GTX.


New PC? - kingvaillant - 08-04-2008

The Q6600 were among the first Quad cores made by Intel, thus they are beginning to get old...

what to check when you want a CPU:
The FSB
The Cache 4mb and +, S'il vous plait
The Frequency
The price.

Also, you should go take a look at http://www.tigerdirect.ca/ for computer parts



New PC? - Turkish - 08-04-2008

Anything beyond a Q6600 is pretty much out of my price range for this, even the final budget is in the air right now so I'm trying to be economically savvy. Part of the reason I picked the two aforementioned sites was because I can do in person pickup there saving myself shipping fees, something I can't with places like Tigerdirect.


New PC? - kingvaillant - 08-04-2008

neway it is a dual core, it should last a long while. if you want to overclock it, just wish intel has been wise enough to unlock the CPU

My sempron here cannot be overclocked,,,they frikking locked it.


New PC? - Boss - 08-04-2008

I love my Black Edition Athlon 64 x2 5k+

Unlocked and boosts to 3.1Ghz without any loss in stability.


New PC? - spec - 08-04-2008

Don't go for a Quad....
There are a very few people who really require 4 cores... Besides C2D are much easier to overclock than quads - 4 cores = more heat

Go for a cheaper duo and get a Zalman CNPS9700 aftermarket cooler and overclock that baby if you
want more speed.
Spend less on the CPU, more on Mobo/Graphics...