Regarding the rules thread layout

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Regarding the rules thread layout - sindroms - 05-09-2016

Hey. First of all, please fix the top navigation bar so the Server Rules pop nicely against the background and surrounding forum elements. I am proposing this change for the third time, now that I had the chance to observe three newbies trying to get around our server rules.

Simply put, yes, our rules as they are right now are very self-explanatory. But only as long as you have played Discovery.

Instead we send completely new players to read that legal document wannabe even before they install the mod. In other words, it seems that even though the rules themselves are simple and easy to read, they remain hard to understand without having been ingame and having context as to what is being described, new players seem to have problems getting their head around a good chunk, albeit not all of them.

A good example is the rules regarding metagaming and powergaming. Yes, if you are roleplayer, you know what is metagaming and godmodding. We even have description under an asterisk. But the rule is not presented within the needed context. The context of metagaming and powergaming in a chat or forum roleplay is easier to understand, but in a game environment it is different.

I propose taking the asterisk explanations to all rules and to a different level: by adding a spoiler collapsible below each rule section in order to explain their intent via ingame context.
For example:

Quote:
1. Not allowed on Discovery forums or server:

1.1 Use of abusive, vulgar, obscene, political, or racist materials
1.2 Trolling or harassing other members of the community
1.3 Advertising, especially commercial advertising, except advertising your own gaming websites or servers
1.4 Adult content or links to it; This also includes any anime that is in any way graphic or pornographic
1.5 Libel, defamatory, threatening materials and any law-violating materials
1.6 Use of copyrighted material without the owner's permission
1.7 Metagaming and/or powergaming to gain a roleplay benefit for factions, groups or individuals

CLICK HERE FOR EXPLANATIONS AND EXAMPLES
1.1 --------
1.2 --------
1.3 --------
1.4 --------
1.5 --------
1.6 --------
1.7 Metagaming - Bob is an Outcast IDed player who is sitting outside of Planet Malta, his home system. Mark is smuggler who undocks from Malta in a transport full of contraband with the intent to smuggle it to Liberty. After exchanging their greetings and goodbyes, Mark sets off on his trip. Bob, after waiting for Mark to leave his scanner range, docks his Outcast IDed ship and switches to his Liberty Police IDed ship and, knowing that Mark is carrying contraband, goes to intercept the player as they enter Liberty with the intent to fine or kill them. - They are using information they have obtained in an OORP manner to their advantage over another player.

Powergaming - Bob is the leader of a influential faction and he is participating in a duel against Mark. Mark beats Bob and takes screenshots as proof. Without asking Bob, Mark then proceeds to make a roleplay post on the forums stating that he has captured the faction's leader and is threatening to execute them if his demands are not met. - They are forcing actions against another player without giving them the chance to respond, affecting and/or interfering with other characters roleplay for their own personal gain.

Then apply this sort of explanations for all rules that need them. Basically, I am saying that first time readers need a bit of information along with the rules to understand why they are there and why they are necessary in the first place.

RE: Regarding the rules thread layout - sasapinjic - 05-09-2016

So , you are saying , we need Johny Walker back in Pennsylvania to explain all those things to newbies , since it may pass a loooong time until finally some newbie-friendly guide is done ? :lol:

RE: Regarding the rules thread layout - sindroms - 05-09-2016

(05-09-2016, 09:43 AM)sasapinjic Wrote: So , you are saying , we need Johny Walker back in Pennsylvania to explain all those things to newbies , since it may pass a loooong time until finally some newbie-friendly guide is done ? :lol:

What?

RE: Regarding the rules thread layout - sasapinjic - 05-09-2016

Let me re-fraze that :
Until people start whining on Johny Walker methods of introducing game to newbies and forced him to give up teaching newbies , all those complicated rules were explained in game relatively easy .
It is now obvious that all those angels cant do 1/2 of Johny work .

RE: Regarding the rules thread layout - Caelumaresh - 05-09-2016

(05-09-2016, 11:25 AM)sasapinjic Wrote: It is now obvious that all those angels cant do 1/2 of Johny work .

Thanks for the compliment
We also have lives, we cant be online all the time explaining stuff to people.
Aswell as we also RP with other people.

RE: Regarding the rules thread layout - sindroms - 05-09-2016

What does this thread have to do with that guy?
If you want to discuss it, he made at least two threads about it. Stick to the topic at hand, please.

A video tutorial regarding "How to survive in Disco 101" is coming.

RE: Regarding the rules thread layout - sasapinjic - 05-09-2016

(05-09-2016, 11:32 AM)Caelumaresh Wrote:
(05-09-2016, 11:25 AM)sasapinjic Wrote: It is now obvious that all those angels cant do 1/2 of Johny work .

Thanks for the compliment
We also have lives, we cant be online all the time explaining stuff to people.
Aswell as we also RP with other people.

I am not telling Angels do lousy job , just stating FACT that Johny was more effective alone , and that it was a big mistake ( and in-justice ) to piss on all his hard work just because he is not so good in RP AND Explaining things to newbies simultaneously !

EDIT :

(05-09-2016, 11:45 AM)sindroms Wrote: What does this thread have to do with that guy?
If you want to discuss it, he made at least two threads about it. Stick to the topic at hand, please.

You are right , sorry for hijacking your tread !

RE: Regarding the rules thread layout - Isambard Kingdom Brunel - 05-09-2016

(05-09-2016, 09:43 AM)sasapinjic Wrote: So , you are saying , we need Johny Walker back in Pennsylvania to explain all those things to newbies , since it may pass a loooong time until finally some newbie-friendly guide is done ? :lol:

Johny Walker is still there and helping newbies (called ''--JohnyWalker--'') - like me (with ''H-Miner''),
we're often at pennsylvania or in the helium field, to help out new guys and giving some cash for ships,
equipment - or filling up ships with our miners.

And yeah, the most guys are not roleplaying....

Greetings Isambard Kingdom Brunel.

RE: Regarding the rules thread layout - Hannibal - 05-09-2016

its a good idea to give an example for each rules,but then you will probably have to explain each scenario that rule can apply to because you will have to deal with a group of people that may think the rule will only apply to that specific scenario