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Ship limitations...already talked about this b4.. - Titus - 08-19-2006
There`s been some talking around about ship limitations for factions, but why don't we make this matter officiall? I'm making a new faction and i feel it would be pretty unfair and illogicall to already posses a BS with only 3 people around :unsure: .
I want to hear some admin oppinnions and proposals....
My proposal is: - Unlimited number of fighters
- A Gunboat at every 2 members
- Cruiser every 3 members
- BS every 4 members.
Ship limitations...already talked about this b4.. - Nightfall - 08-19-2006
IMHO, the ships are bought with money, not with how many players/members you have, so, if the people trade enough... why not buy a battleship?
On the other hand it wouldn't be bad thet the capship owners be at least the rank of Captain in the faction.
Ship limitations...already talked about this b4.. - Igiss - 08-19-2006
Every member can buy any ships he/she wants to. I see no reason for limiting. Players can have up to 5 characters on each account, and you'll try to limit all 5 with fighters? No one will ever agree to that.
Ship limitations...already talked about this b4.. - Fellow Hoodlum - 08-19-2006
Difficult one to police aswell. As a faction leader how are you going to make sure your
members don't have other chars. I'd be a little upset too, if I was told I couldn't have
the ship I'd worked for ...
Hoodlum
Ship limitations...already talked about this b4.. - Titus - 08-19-2006
@Nightfall: BS`s, the most expensive ones cost about 100 mills, money which can
be made in a bit more than an hour..
@Igiss: Yes but what happens if in some faction (like the -=?=-) everybody
decides to come in cruisers/BS's?
@Hoodlum: Even if you`re in faction in which you can't have capships until you are
promoted in rank, you can still have the desired capship, but untagged,
and so, useless for the faction...
These were my counterarguments (or whatever they were) :)
Ship limitations...already talked about this b4.. - Dab - 08-19-2006
Well if a faction like the -=?=- starts using lots and lots of cruisers and battleships (the main reason they were winning is because they had seriously overpowered Heugenots against the other faction's more balanced ship), then you should just fighter mob them. Eventually they will be forced to get anti fighter weaps or die, if they do that you can take them down with capships. Thats why I like mixed fleets. Not just all capships. But half caps and half fighters.
Maybe we could higher the price of the battleships? make them 200 mil instead of 100, since trading is so much easier nowadays. In 4.75 the prices were good because you couldn't make money quite as fast. But now EVERYONE has large trains and can make money like crazy, as well as too many people have BSs.
Ship limitations...already talked about this b4.. - Kane - 08-19-2006
Not necissarily. If you have a good, solid, controlled faction (Say, the RM, SF, and perhaps the AW (Although I can't really speak for anyone besides the RM)) then you should be able to limmit yourselfs.
One of the reasons that the RM is using more capital class ships is because the smugglers have trains, the pirates have gunboats, the smugglers friends have battleships, and the Phantoms are just plain nasty. Ok, so maybe that's a lot of reasons, BUT they are valid! If it were harder for single people to get battleships, or perhaps trains and so on, we would also down-grade our stuff as well (Although maybe not... We are the Military, after all. Rheinland has an excess of military ships, at the moment. ;) )
Ship limitations...already talked about this b4.. - Dab - 08-19-2006
Well AW IS restricting our ships from now on. And if noone in AW objects to my new shiplist in the next few days I'll make the current one official.
And Kane, We love taking those excess ships away from you. ;) Its really fun. :D
Ship limitations...already talked about this b4.. - Igiss - 08-19-2006
Controversy all around.
Earlier many members tried to convince me that battleships should become very powerful, so fighters couldn't even hurt them. Now, when battleships actually become more powerful, people start complaining about too many battleships on server. Logically.
Next. Other people were complaining that train capacity is too low, and trade routes are too long. You now say that trading is too easy!
Next. There were complains about battleships being too expensive. Recently someone complained that new battleships are too expensive because they lack pre-installed weaponry. Now you say that they are way too cheap. Oh, really? You know that battleship prices were already increased, and that I have to add 'expensive light' items for this. But ships don't have unlimited number of lights.
I'm so confused...
Ship limitations...already talked about this b4.. - Dab - 08-19-2006
I never complained that trading was too long and hard. I just said I hated trading.. I still do. I think either BSs need to be more expensive or trading go back to what it was. Longer and Harder. That requires TIME to get somewhere.