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Why is Nomad gear so good for PVP? - Zelot - 01-10-2017
So I think anyone will agree, the nomads in this mod have a clear and definitive advantage in pvp. My question is why. Why does one faction have gear that is so much better than everyone else's. Not just a little better, but far and away the best. What is the rationale for this? I know what the answer to this question was from when we implemented nomads as playable in the mod to several years ago, but I am not sure the answer anymore. With this latest patch buffing nomads even more, I think this is a fair discussion to have since we have moved so far way from its original intent.
RE: Why is Nomad gear so good for PVP? - Backo - 01-10-2017
What did they buff?
RE: Why is Nomad gear so good for PVP? - Zelot - 01-10-2017
(01-10-2017, 08:16 AM)Bloodl1ke Wrote: What did they buff?
I saw 2 or 3 things in the patch notes for the nomads, but now I am on my phone and don't have the energy to look again. But even without any buff, I think it's a valid question, even more so if there was a buff.
RE: Why is Nomad gear so good for PVP? - Sombs - 01-10-2017
The snub stuff is better, that's true. I think even the Adads Bomber Guns are better than human technology. However, the Nammu is awful against snubs. I really wonder why we don't have a solaris-equivalent for the Nammu, because it's a better anti-cap ship than anything else.
RE: Why is Nomad gear so good for PVP? - diamond1 - 01-10-2017
They buffed the snub guns too well. three fighters could take down my cap 8 armor upgraded hull in a full minute, with one square off at a time. And the fact that so many of them spawned in omicron delta and probbably other places, it's IMPOSSIBLE to engage cruise engines unless you have a cloak yourself.
RE: Why is Nomad gear so good for PVP? - Zelot - 01-10-2017
I think you guys are missing my point. We pretty much know the stuff is better, the question is why is it better and should it be.
RE: Why is Nomad gear so good for PVP? - Foxglove - 01-10-2017
Because Nomads are more advanced than humans and you are always going to be outnumbered when you play them?
RE: Why is Nomad gear so good for PVP? - Sombs - 01-10-2017
(01-10-2017, 09:25 AM)Foxglove Wrote: Because Nomads are more advanced than humans and you are always going to be outnumbered when you play them?
RE: Why is Nomad gear so good for PVP? - Backo - 01-10-2017
(01-10-2017, 09:25 AM)Foxglove Wrote: Because Nomads are more advanced than humans and you are always going to be outnumbered when you play them?
Except when you're actually doing the TS3 squad of OC + Wilde + cloaked Durks uncloaking behind the enemy at point blank and just wrecking everyone. Seeing the last 2 days in Delta your statement is rather irrelevant and incorrect.
In fact by your logic I think we need to buff Core/Corsair gear as they are the truly no ally factions.
@Zelot
I checked the changelogs, the changes they got are relatively minor, just combining some utility equipment from capital human class and regular human class into 1 single nomad equipment. Not something game breaking in my opinion. The only thing I think Nomads indeed have better is as someone already mentioned - bomber guns as they act as both EMP and Energy cannons. The other is perhaps the insanely annoying to hit model of the Predator. I have no experience to speak about caps, though.
Either way with the new changes to fighters getting aux slot unless nomads have a copy of the sunkiller they're at a serious disadvantage.
RE: Why is Nomad gear so good for PVP? - Zelot - 01-10-2017
(01-10-2017, 09:25 AM)Foxglove Wrote: Because Nomads are more advanced than humans and you are always going to be outnumbered when you play them?
So is it a PVP fairness issue (they are always outnumbered) or an rp issue (they are more advanced) ?