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Omicron Delta - TameImpala - 12-30-2008
First of all i just started using forums again.Reason i make this post is not to insult but to point out.To some players in Omicron Delta.This has gone bad that when i want to rp i have to make it fast in private before i get blown to bits because some maniac in cap wants to blow me up across the universe.Example:I pass with my friend across delta to rp or find a person to rp with us.Then we move next to a player "J.D"."J:D"shouts infected cruiser near fp 11 come.Then 20 players come.(corsairs,bhg,non tage,img,)Mostly caps legats ,cruiser,bombers.And when i try to rp i get this.......Silence.Of course im not all rp and i do mistakes but when i try a little whole goddamn fleet of ships come to "eliminate".But not all is dark.There are players that rp!i would like to congratulate em for not blowing me up each time i pass by
Omicron Delta - JIVA - 12-30-2008
there are several reasons for that though that you might consider...
omicron-delta has seen extended warfare between the nomads and the humans. during the last year we have attempted to simply consider those that RP as infected... OR for that fact are suspected to be infected as hostile and practicly "kill on sight".
reason for that is that it was very hard to start communicating with infected people ( not everyone that pretends to be infected RPs the way that there is a real chance to communicate ) and for another - there are / have been occasions when infected ones took it as a reason themselves to start firing while the others still tried to figure out how to RP with them.
about the use of capital ships - now, players are SUPPOSED to fly capital ships in such remote places such as omicron-delta ( like it or not - but that IS roleplay[ or at least its a very valid aspect of the RP in such parts] ) - players are usually meant to fly cruisers, destroyers, battleships there RATHER than light fighters. - it is stated in a few ID cards such as the IMG albatross BC that such remote parts of sirius are so dangerous that people rather explore them or travel them in cruiser class vessels for the greater protection. - same with the BHG... they are supposed to travel there with capital ship raid groups. - same with the corsairs. - both factions deploy NPC capital ship raid groups. - so there is hardly anything wrong with it.
here is an example from yesterday that got me a bit confused, too...
now - we had an infected cruiser there that had RPed to be infected alright. - it was quite clear it was infected. - then yesterday - a gunship undocked from FP11 with a merc ID. .... a minute later, it started to babble in so called "nomad talk" - you know... lots of *** and some abstract stuff.
what can the average player make out of it? - its confusing. - for one, such a player appears to see nothing wrong with docking with a human station - for another, this player appears to RP an infected. - how shall one react?
just a few min later - the one battlestar in close vicinity of FP11 was aparently overrun by nomads in bombers. - nothing wrong with that ... the battleship had no chance at all though.
anyway - complaining about the situation in delta is like going to sigma-13 and complain about niobium traders - or moving to an airport and complaining about the noise.
but if you re in delta - you must be aware that its a WARZONE. - the BHG and order are at war - but not directly with each other - they are at war FOR nomad tech. - the BHG especially is supposed to deploy all their warships there. the corsairs have - as a reaction deployed an equally powerful defense there - not only against the BHG , but also against the nomads. - the order is so close - and the zoners are not really patient with the nomads either.
in the past - it was RPed that the station of the zoners was severely damaged by nomads - so one cannot expect the majority of "humans" to consider nomads or anyone in leage with them to be anything but outright hostile - and to answer with the most effective and greatest force possible.
that doesn t mean its "fair" or that its supporting a RP that is based on establishing communications - but thats what is to be expected for the most part.
Omicron Delta - TameImpala - 12-30-2008
' Wrote:there are several reasons for that though that you might consider...
omicron-delta has seen extended warfare between the nomads and the humans. during the last year we have attempted to simply consider those that RP as infected... OR for that fact are suspected to be infected as hostile and practicly "kill on sight".
reason for that is that it was very hard to start communicating with infected people ( not everyone that pretends to be infected RPs the way that there is a real chance to communicate ) and for another - there are / have been occasions when infected ones took it as a reason themselves to start firing while the others still tried to figure out how to RP with them.
about the use of capital ships - now, players are SUPPOSED to fly capital ships in such remote places such as omicron-delta ( like it or not - but that IS roleplay[ or at least its a very valid aspect of the RP in such parts] ) - players are usually meant to fly cruisers, destroyers, battleships there RATHER than light fighters. - it is stated in a few ID cards such as the IMG albatross BC that such remote parts of sirius are so dangerous that people rather explore them or travel them in cruiser class vessels for the greater protection. - same with the BHG... they are supposed to travel there with capital ship raid groups. - same with the corsairs. - both factions deploy NPC capital ship raid groups. - so there is hardly anything wrong with it.
here is an example from yesterday that got me a bit confused, too...
now - we had an infected cruiser there that had RPed to be infected alright. - it was quite clear it was infected. - then yesterday - a gunship undocked from FP11 with a merc ID. .... a minute later, it started to babble in so called "nomad talk" - you know... lots of *** and some abstract stuff.
what can the average player make out of it? - its confusing. - for one, such a player appears to see nothing wrong with docking with a human station - for another, this player appears to RP an infected. - how shall one react?
just a few min later - the one battlestar in close vicinity of FP11 was aparently overrun by nomads in bombers. - nothing wrong with that ... the battleship had no chance at all though.
anyway - complaining about the situation in delta is like going to sigma-13 and complain about niobium traders - or moving to an airport and complaining about the noise.
but if you re in delta - you must be aware that its a WARZONE. - the BHG and order are at war - but not directly with each other - they are at war FOR nomad tech. - the BHG especially is supposed to deploy all their warships there. the corsairs have - as a reaction deployed an equally powerful defense there - not only against the BHG , but also against the nomads. - the order is so close - and the zoners are not really patient with the nomads either.
in the past - it was RPed that the station of the zoners was severely damaged by nomads - so one cannot expect the majority of "humans" to consider nomads or anyone in leage with them to be anything but outright hostile - and to answer with the most effective and greatest force possible.
that doesn t mean its "fair" or that its supporting a RP that is based on establishing communications - but thats what is to be expected for the most part.
i personally think that all by now should now im infected cruiser.I do not kill on sight anything that moves.Yes your statement is true about explorations but if they use to defend from "us"why do they then seek to kill us if they are scared.My last dock is fp11 but i dont use it i leave the game and my ship near Iota jump hole.If i die i am maybe 2mins there just to restock while im there.But the funniest thing is.Example:/l //Let me guess corsairs and bhg and order are going to Allie them self just this time
/l //rare occasion indeed(reply by "j.D")
(i found my self surrounded by 20 ships just kill me)
I read that order council agreed that nomad or infected in Delta are n t shot on sight unless there is rp reason.
Yes,many infected think that rp infected or nomad is to kill all.That i disapprove .We arent monsters we are light.I also think that players kill us just to flame us not to rp.Most think its rp to call us light bulbs ,yes its good if you rp (excuse me)DRUNKEN IDIOT.
Well in all my point is that blowing things up isnt main thing here.That i have to stood so low to ask in private to rp with someone before he use me as practice target.
Omicron Delta - JIVA - 12-30-2008
yes - of course ... ships should maybe not "seek you out to kill you" - especially not explorers.
often however - action / reaction comes down to how ppl experienced infeced ones before. - which often has nthing to do with the currently infected but with previous occasions. - like a rather peaceful pirate that is only interested in jumping on one or two traders every now and then and trying to be gentle. - but after like a dozen hunters that jumped him - even the most gentle pirate becomes sort of ... different and will himself jump the next hunter - which .... "might" be a hunter that would never have jumped that pirate. - and so its a spiral of "bad RP experience with each other".
when you see the forces that sometimes spill out of iota ( rarely recently - but still sometimes ) its sometimes that delta gathers up a HUGE defense making an attack almost impossible or at least a farce... while in other times... no one comes over and the attackers face a freighter and a fighter only.
thats the risk of non planned attacks... you don t know what shows up, - you don t know if players decide to relog to a ship near there - its all unpredictable.
then there are those players that roleplay being nomad hunters. - yes.... thats a RP, too. and it is their roleplay to destroy and loot any nomad they encounter. - and its right and good - cause the nomads ARE the enemies of all ( including wild and infected ) - it might be "nicer" if they passed a bit more RP before - of course.... but still... it is their roleplay. - and maybe they have tried to communicate in the past - put a lot of efford into it - and did not succeed. - it is not their fault. ... they have tried, they have failed and now the "characters" turned the safe way and attempts to blow them up.
roleplay goes many ways - and each player has their own view of how a situation must be RPed - and pretty often, those views clash with each other. but when you play an infected capital ship.... ( or a fighter- doesn t matter ) - you must be aware of what is to come.
Omicron Delta - TameImpala - 12-30-2008
Don't judge book by its cover.
Not are people are the same.
I hope it put is in these lines my reply but to all that have bad experience with some of "us"thrust me those guys haven't move one bit closer to be part of Community.
Omicron Delta - BeanzOnToast - 12-30-2008
Quote:...
just a few min later - the one battlestar in close vicinity of FP11 was aparently overrun by nomads in bombers. - nothing wrong with that ... the battleship had no chance at all though.
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You can take my word that mentioned Battlestar kind of had it comming.
As for the situation ... i think there was 5 Battleships, a Battlecruiser and quite a few fighters/bombers all flying under different flags. There was really no need for Corsairs and Order to "unite against the common foe" with the Bounty Hunters. All of "us" only waited for infected ship to start shooting (apart from few Corsair fighters who went back to Gamma and one Corsair battleship which went to Yaren). How dissapointed the fleet was when infected cruiser was delaying shooting with "***Light***" dialogue, and then simply left without any fireworks.
Just want to add what i didn't mentioned on priv Grim - as Chesire mentioned RPing with infected is quite tricky, And you were simply put into one bag with people who use: "***Come to the Light***" -> "Death: Non-infected was killed by infected (Gun)" as their main RP when playing infected. Apart from that i belive i shared my thoughts in game on priv, and by saying "Uncomfortable silence ..." on system chat when everyone was waiting for you to start shooting.
Omicron Delta - TameImpala - 12-30-2008
If im infected doesn't mean im idiot.Plus im near fp 11 do you think so highly of your self as rp that i would break rp rule.Yes i know that you waited for me to shot but i was trying to rp with you that's why i came.some people (no names)told me on private chat that you where waiting for me to start (what a laugh).then i told them i will try rp to see what happens....silence.....Then those left because they saw what was going on.im not pvp whore like someone else(no names of course)AND READ ORDER CLEARLY SAID WE DON'T ATTACK INFECTED IN DELTA WITHOUT RP REASON.Let s use that for example.what rp reason did you got to come with such large fleet and thrust me they didn't come to my position by luck they where invited to help.Where is rp about that its like Wild and rm are best friend that's about the same proportion.Some players who where there where actually talking :who want some roast meat or orange juice.Soon. Yes it role play if you are hungry or just oorp in sys.Tell me why didnt you shot ,i will tell you why.Because you don t have rp reason.because all you do is pvp.tell me who rp with me when i said **we.are.light** or i other thing.WHO?I must be blind cause i didn't saw not one word .ONE WORD!!!
Omicron Delta - Treewyrm - 12-30-2008
Endure and don't sink low to the level of those who cause you grief. What else is there to say? Historically Delta has been a war zone ever since the Keepers faction was made. And that was a little more than a year ago. Good if that attracts people who genuinely want to roleplay, and roleplay they get in return, with consequential hostility or not, depending on the substance of the roleplay session itself. But has not always been the case as it also attracts those who do not wish to have any sort of conversation what so ever, even the tiniest one, merely looking for a PvP experience and nothing else, which is quite unfortunate. I wish those people would go elsewhere and take at least some time to do a bit of roleplay prior to waltzing on their shiny battlestars into Delta/Iota playing "mute hero" but dying constantly. Time has proven their little efforts to be quite ineffective and countered by a number of bombers. It has been like that before and it is now and I don't really expect things to change. Eventually some do get a message to stop grief playing, but for those that realize there are likely new ones standing behind to take their place. So... Endure. Be above. If the in-game situations start to get grim and irritate a lot (judging by this topic) - take a step back, replax, put the game itself away, write a story for example, incorporate some good experience you had in game into it, something constructive that would keep the negativity away. Trust me, it helps a lot and evolves you as a player, as a roleplayer. Share not the negativity but something positive, at least some... well... shards of light I'd call them in a way. Small as they may be sometimes still it's worth nothing that they are the bricks and mortar of the roleplay in this community, not the PvP experience and grief caused by certain individuals.
My personal suggestion for the moment would be to take a deep breath, take a moment's pause and let it go. May be, like I said, start a story?
Omicron Delta - TameImpala - 12-30-2008
Thank you!!
And dont get me wrong this is not flaming this is TRUTH
Omicron Delta - TameImpala - 12-30-2008
And yes im not HOLY RP GOD.God know how many times i slip out on server.Oorp and pvp crazy i was.But i put my combat skill aside and woke up.First started small but now im rp infected cruiser and improving my side that "lagged"most .My rp sucked big time.And mostly i was bored.I saw i cant get anywhere on rp server if only pvp is my skill.Know im balancing my self.I ve been working hard with limited cash and resources and i don't need some pvp whores draggin me down again.I dotn like the idea of sending them to other server but they need a STARFLEA and start rp from the start then take BS or what ever massive thing they have.