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Kishiro Technologies - Akina - 01-14-2009
Konnichiwa fellow Kusarian comrades and Kishiro employees.
I have a little issue with what is going on outside in space and might need some advice, or at least some information on it.
As there is a Kishiro| wing in the official KNF, there it seems is a new Kishiro faction coming up (with Marcus_Janus in the lead I guess); so what would be the direction Kishiro is taking?
For my part, Iam employed with Kishiro; and playing as part of the Development Division I would like to know, what other players from Kishiro are doing out there except for trading.
I, fe, own a Catmaran (Kishiro developed) and try to get my ties to the Gas Miners, as they are next to the Naval Forces our main allies.
But next to this, I also offer me as an Escort to Kishiro or Gas Miners Traders.
But all in all, there is nothing really to do out there.
Kishiro have great potential; so, suggestions from you?
Regards.
//if there is allready a topic on that, please post the link to it.
Kishiro Technologies - Markam - 01-14-2009
All il say is KNF needs all the friends it can get, currently outnumbered by even the Blood Dragons with a new BD faction popping up from nowhere, while NovaPG were already enough for KNF to handle, not including the two GC factions.
I dont believe KNF can even begin to hold a candle to BAF in numbers and even experience, with AFA/Hogosha and the Gaians being small, and the numbers of BAF's friends, KNF stands little chance, I would recommend Kishiro traders simply join the KNF faction and use the kishiro as a trader, several BAF do the same with Bowex.
Kishiro Technologies - Akina - 01-14-2009
' Wrote:I would recommend Kishiro traders simply join the KNF faction and use the kishiro as a trader, several BAF do the same with Bowex.
Well, as Bowex might not have such potential as Kishiro; it might work for it. But not for Kishiro. Sure, people can have and have their characters also in KNF and as such use the Kishiro characters just for trade.
But Kishiro isnt just a trading faction. We also do a lot of the work which Ageira does, developing and researching for new, better stuff and things like that.
And I wouldnt like to see that Kishiro is stripped down to be just a trading faction.
I will be out in space with my Catamaran to stand against this.
Kishiro Technologies - ProwlerPC - 01-14-2009
' Wrote:All il say is KNF needs all the friends it can get, currently outnumbered by even the Blood Dragons with a new BD faction popping up from nowhere, while NovaPG were already enough for KNF to handle, not including the two GC factions.
I dont believe KNF can even begin to hold a candle to BAF in numbers and even experience, with AFA/Hogosha and the Gaians being small, and the numbers of BAF's friends, KNF stands little chance, I would recommend Kishiro traders simply join the KNF faction and use the kishiro as a trader, several BAF do the same with Bowex.
Kishiro is a trading company and wouldn't be involved in the war, Samura is a trade comany and has ties to the war only due to the fact that they build the warships for KNF. These two comanies are civilian companies just as Daumann, Gateway, and Aheira are and wouldn't be sending in their civilian escort in to the heat of battle against the BAF warmachine.
That being said, Kishiro will enjoy great relations with GMG and would have nothing to fear from the Blood Dragons. Kishiro is GMG's primary trade partner and can enjoy the benefits of our protection when needed.
I have seen several Kishiro players on the server and I am glad to see the interest in the need to fill a hole.
Kishiro Technologies - Markam - 01-14-2009
My point was not that Kishiro actualy physicaly join the war, that is obvious, but to form close ties with KNF and perhaps create a KNF character, due to their weakness of late. Perhaps its more suited to Samura, but Kishiro is obviously a more popular faction.
Kishiro Technologies - Akina - 01-14-2009
Well, I dont like to say that Kishiro is a just Trading Faction. Sure, our Idendification Card states that; and so we cant join military operations.
Me thinks, the trading part is just necessary to gain the ressources needed for research operations and to invent and evolve equipment and new technics for the Naval Forces use primarily.
Samura builts ships and so need heavy amounts of stuff hauled in. But not Kishiro, we just need some technological advanced stuff and a certain amount of prime ressources to put them together.
Tading is more a fact of collaborating with allied factions like the Gas Miners to me.
As said, Iam playing as part of the Development Division, which means I also check the lanes for issues in software and hardware, help the GMG to repair their lanes, like to talk about what can be changed to make future better... just Kishiro roleplay.
But it is hard to invent something when no-one is there except some traders from us.
Traders arent really that kind of Kishiro employees who invent, research and develop stuff when they move out into space.
Kishiro Technologies - MarvinCZ - 01-14-2009
Please, try to understand Markam's points. He does not tell Kishiro to join in military operations in any way. Creating a separate KNF character, a different person, is what he suggests.
Kishiro Technologies - Akina - 01-14-2009
' Wrote:Please, try to understand Markam's points. He does not tell Kishiro to join in military operations in any way. Creating a separate KNF character, a different person, is what he suggests.
Well, i think some people missing the point of this topic...
Hai, we know we are not a military force. We are developers, scientists and traders.
My main question was and is to all Kishiro players...:
I would like to know, what other players from Kishiro are doing out there except for trading?
(Btw. There is no 'Bowex' in that sentence)
What is the way Kishiro is taking in future except for that trading stuff?
Is there a basic guideline people have in mind?
Are we just a loose group of players flying around doing all our very own stuff?
Kishiro Technologies - jammi - 01-14-2009
' Wrote:Well, as Bowex might not have such potential as Kishiro; it might work for it. But not for Kishiro. Sure, people can have and have their characters also in KNF and as such use the Kishiro characters just for trade.Can I just mention now, that your idea that Bowex has less potential than Kishiro offends me. Well, unsettles me anyway. What's the point of getting offended by something on the forums?
But Kishiro isnt just a trading faction. We also do a lot of the work which Ageira does, developing and researching for new, better stuff and things like that.
And I wouldnt like to see that Kishiro is stripped down to be just a trading faction.
I will be out in space with my Catamaran to stand against this.
Bowex has a in depth history and RP line which it follows. for starters it's a state owned corporation, so it works for the government, which has allowed us Bowex players to establish strong diplomatic links with the BAF and BPA, as can be seen in the Renewal of the Royal Charter which I wrote a little while ago. This is an example of positive, public, action to both advance the faction and raise publicity to the group. Maybe Kishiro should undertake similar actions, eh?
Secondly, Bowex has the dual role of being Bretonia's primary shipping corporation (followed by Gateway) as well as being the primary exploration faction out of all four of the houses. We therefore have the RP potential to send ships out in the omegas and borderworlds on exploration missions (which can be recorded here on the forums in the name of RP).
There are then the more complex inter-House relations, which would simply put be the alliance with BMM (we supply their shipyards with raw materials for construction) and our hostility towards Gateway, our main competitor.
The whole point of the above, is that in-RP, none of the Corporations are 'just' trading factions. Each NPC group has it's own particular quirks, such as underhand funding of pirate organisations, or dual roles (such as with Bowex). the problem is however, is that trading is the easiest of all these corporation's roles to represent, seeing as in-game mechanics do not easily allow people to be a researcher or developer.
As for finding out about whether the Kishiro players are just a loose group floating around, you know who the leader of the new group is (Marcus_Janus, you said so in post one), so why don't you ask him? After all, the community can't tell you how he will form his group.
Kishiro Technologies - Akina - 01-14-2009
Hm, now it really starts to annoy me, comrades.
If you get offended than it is your fault; excuse, but there was no offence in it, just my very own opinion that Kishiro have more potential as just trading; and obviously for me, more potential as Bowex. You Bowex guys could have whatever diplomatic links you like, i talked about development and researching. And THAT isnt surely nothing of Bowex' buisness.
And now I will ask a last time, it cant be such hard for you Bowex guys not to post, nor?
I would like to know, what other players from Kishiro are doing out there except for trading?
and
What is the way Kishiro is taking in future except for that trading stuff?
Is there a basic guideline people have in mind?
Are we just a loose group of players flying around doing all our very own stuff?
And sure, I could contact Marcus_Janus privatly, but I want all Kishiro players to know about and to give them the chance to respond; not at last cause I want to know from as much Kishiro players as possible.
So, thanks and Regards to all.
//and please, stay now to the topic; Bowex players can for sure also respond, but please just when responding to one of the questions.
Thanks