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Second Draft of the Treaty of Curacao - pbrione - 01-15-2009 Following yesterday's diplomatic summit, a Second Draft of the Treaty of Curacao has been agreed upon. As the next stage our Diplomatic negociations, this Draft is now open to consultation with representatives of the Indpendent Miners Guild and Orbital Spa and Cruise, as well as further amendment from the Liberty or Bretonian Governments. Quote:Preamble If any OFFICIAL senior diplomatic representatives of the IMG, OSC, BAF or LN wish to make make comments or suggest amendments, now is the time to do so. This channel is NOT open for consultation with the general public - any non invited statements here will be ignored. If everything is satisfactory, we shall arrange a provisional date for the Signing of the Treaty on Curacao. Second Draft of the Treaty of Curacao - beander2 - 01-15-2009 *****GuildComm Activated***** FROM: Peter Barrington, GM RE: Treaty of Curacao Thank you for the opportunity to comment on this document. We are pleased with the language thus far, though we would request the addition of several points: All references to our organization should read "Miners" rather than "Mining." Article I, Clause 4 - The Independent Miners Guild should have veto rights over policies affecting Magellan, given that we, and neither BAF nor LN, have a base there. I would include the same for OSC in Cortez. Article II, Clause 3 - Any LN or BAF vessel found having docked at Freeport 4 without authorization from IMG or not under emergency circumstances will be fined 250,000 credits payable to any official IMG vessel. Article III, Clause 1 - Any damage to Freeport 4 or IMG vessels by LN or BAF forces violating this policy will require suitable reparation from the organization of the respective violator. Article III, Clause 6 - Under no circumstances are the natural resources of Magellan or Cortez to be nationalized by either the Bretonian or Liberty governments. Also, there should be some mechanism for future amendment by signing parties. At the moment, these are the additions we propose. We will continue our consideration of the Treaty and notify you if we have further comment. Sincerely yours, Peter Barrington Guild Master Independent Miners Guild *****GuildComm Deactivated***** Second Draft of the Treaty of Curacao - pbrione - 01-15-2009 --Incomming Transmission-- Taking into account your suggestions, Mr Barrington, I have made the following amendments to the main text to try and satisfy your requests: 1. References have been altered to reflect the official title of the Independent Miners Guild 2. Article I, Clause 4 has been amended, granting more equitable voting rights to the quartet, and establishing a legal framework under which future amendments to the Treaty can be made. More democratic tie-breaking votes have replaced the LN and BAF vetos. 3. Article II, Clause 3 has had the relevant passage inserted into it. 4. Added Article I, Clause 6. This should protect against your fears of any government appropriation of the natural resources of Magellan or Cortez. 5. I do not consider it neccessary to insert a clause relating to damage to your Freeport or ships by BAF or LN officers specifically. Your concerns regarding this should be alleviated by the Property Rights as defined in the new Article I, Clause 6, by which you would naturally have the right to sue for damages to any of your corporate property, by BAF, LN, or indeed any other vessels. I trust you find these relevant changes satisfactory, Awaiting your further response on this matter, Commodore Stanley Nelson BAF Diplomatic Officer 5th Fleet - HMS Suffolk --End Transmission-- Second Draft of the Treaty of Curacao - beander2 - 01-15-2009 *****GuildComm Activated***** TO: Commodore Stanley Nelson FROM: Peter Barrington, GM RE: Treaty of Curacao Commodore Nelson, Thank you for your courteous adjustments to the treaty thus far. I have only two more to request at this point. First, you neglected to insert "payable to any official IMG vessel" at the end of Article II, Clause 3. This phrase is necessary considering point ii) of the appendix, under which the fine in question would go to the BAF and LN, thus negating the force of the clause. Of course, the official IMG vessel conducting the citation would be the logical recipient for payment. Second, I am forced to inquire as to why only counterfeit software is specifically mentioned in Article III, Clause 5, and not other contraband, such as cardamine. Disrupting cardamine traffic is a priority for the Guild, and would therefore be an important element of law enforcement in Magellan. Cardamine is, of course, illegal in both Liberty and Bretonia. Yours, Peter Barrington Guild Master Independent Miners Guild *****GuildComm Deactivated***** Second Draft of the Treaty of Curacao - pbrione - 01-15-2009 --Incoming Transmission-- I have inserted the explicit specification that the IMG should receive money for unauthorised docking on Freeport 4, as requested. In response to your second point, sir, the Liberty Navy and myself feel that counterfeit software is a special case, as all known routes involving its transport pass from Liberty where it is sourced into Bretonia where it is sold. Consequently, any vessel found carrying counterfeit software in Magellan can be safely assumed to have already committed a crime against Liberty, and to be about to commit a crime against Bretonia. Therefore it is legally acceptable for us to extend our juristictions against them in this way. Other contraband items, such as slaves or cardamine, are harder to trace, and many of them may be brought in via the so-called "barrier pass" which is beleived to enable them to enter Cortez without having passed through either Liberty or Bretonia. Other reasons why we have not specified restrictions against these items include their differing legal statuses in Liberty and Bretonia; whilst all cardamine traces are illegal in Liberty, 5 units or less for personal consumption have legal status in Bretonia. Similarly synthetic marijuana is only classed as "limited contraband" in Bretonia, whilst Orbital Spa and Cruise have already expressed their objections to any restrictions on narcotics use in Cortez, which they feel would be harmful to their commercial interests, as they currently fully legalise use of such substances in their resort. That said, if our conter-software smuggling strategy proves particularly successful, we may well consider extending it to other contraband items at a later date. Naturally this would be done in accordance with the Treaty Amendment provisions as laid out in Article I Clauses 3 and 4. Hoping that you are satisfied with my response, Commodore Stanley Nelson BAF Diplomatic Officer 5th Fleet - HMS Suffolk --End Transmission-- Second Draft of the Treaty of Curacao - beander2 - 01-15-2009 *****GuildComm Activated***** TO: Commodore Stanley Nelson FROM: Peter Barrington, GM RE: Treaty of Curacao Commodore, My thanks, once again, for agreeing to our proposed insertion. As to cardamine, we will not press the issue further at this point, except to say that were we to witness the transport of significant amounts of said contraband into Bretonian or Liberty space, we would insist upon the immediate halting and prosecution of the vessel in question. The response demonstrated by authorities of your respective houses will indicate to us to what degree your governments take this plague, and the dangerous criminal elements its supports, seriously. In the future, it may become necessary for the Guild to respond to the cardamine trade more directly, and we expect your governments to respect our rights in that regard. At this point, we have no further suggestions, but will contact you should a concern arise. Again, thank you for your attention to these matters. Yours, Peter Barrington Guild Master Independent Miners Guild *****GuildComm Deactivated***** Second Draft of the Treaty of Curacao - pieguy259 - 01-16-2009 INCOMING TRANSMISSION From: David Sanders, CEO, PanGalactic Travel Company Re: Treaty of Curacao I've been sent by the board of Orbital Spa and Cruise to liaise on this matter. Most of the treaty is very agreeable to them, but one point does need clarification, specifically Article IV, Clause 7: Does admitted imply that Spa and Cruise and IMG ships may be permitted to join NATO forces voluntarily, or that they would be required to join if instructed to do so by said NATO forces? Clarification of this point would be appreciated. END TRANSMISSION Second Draft of the Treaty of Curacao - pbrione - 01-17-2009 --Incoming Transmission-- Mr Sanders, The clause in question, I think, was originally drafted with the intention that Orbital Spa and Cruise and Independent Miners Guild ships could be requested by acting by acting NATO commanders to serve alongside the LN and BAF forces. However, the OSC and IMG ships in question would always retain the right to opt-out of any such participation, as they represent primarily commercial rather than military forces. Naturally no requests would be made in any way obliging civilian trade vessels to engage in combat actions. Note also that I had not included equivalent rankings for OSC and IMG officers under the NATO shared command structure - the intention was always that OSC and IMG would remain only affiliated members of NATO, and that any of their ships agreeing to serve alongside regular NATO forces would not do so in a position of command as ranking NATO officers. I trust that you may pass these comments on to your Orbital Spa and Cruise collegues, and reassure them that the main role of Orbital Spa and Cruise in NATO would be hosting the organisation's headquaters on Curacao, rather than contributing to its combat forces. I am sure they would agree that the prestige associated with such a significant organisation would naturally be to Orbital Spa and Cruise's commercial advantage. Yours sincerely, Commodore Stanley Nelson BAF Diplomatic Officer 5th Fleet - HMS Suffolk --End Transmission-- |