• - vanilla ships take as much damage from explosives as non-vanilla ones
  
  - all equipment (guns, thrusters, cm, shields ++) was made more explosion resistant (basically you loose lvl 9 guns in a VHF right as you run out of bots)
  
  - CMs are one of the most explosive-resistant components (they are the last thing left)
  

• - generally explosives can have about 80% more damage than in 4.84
  
  example:
  Nukes 17k instead of 10k => every LF dies to one Nuke (as it should be imo)
  Cannonball 7.8k instead of some 4.6k
  
  Now in 4.84 for example Cannonball does the 4.6k damage to non-vanilla, while to vanilla it does about 18k damage (depending on ship).
  In 4.84 it takes some 3 nukes to blast all guns off a non-vanilla ship, with these changed it takes about 8 nukes.
  

• 1. Introducing cargo space requirements
  
  - Ammo would take some cargo space as well, for example 0.2 per one missile, leading to 70 of them taking 14 cargo space.
  - The max. 70 limit would stay active as well
  - Armor upgrades (universal) take different ammount of cargo space so you can spare space by using lower upgrade (example: MK8 (2.5) - 20 cargo, MK7 (2.35 - not decided yet) 12 Cargo)
  
  - another ways to spare cargo is for example use new rippers (10k damage) instead of nukes
  
  Here off course the numbers can vary a lot, but in general we have come to numbers that allow the following (they are not final)
  LFs - mk8 armor, 70 Nukes, 70 Train CD
  VHF - mk8 armor (20 cargo) , 70 Nukes (14) , 70 Cannonballs (21) , 70 Firestalkers (14) = 67
  Bombers - mk8 armor, 70 Nukes, 70 Train CDs, 70 Nova torps
  
  Pros
  
  - relatively simple to implement, only some small cargo space balancing might be needed on some ships
  - introduces choices even for people that do want to use a lot of missiles, they just have to sacrifice something
  
  Cons
  - "full" load takes whole cargo space limiting carrying of RP commodities or looting of commodities in fight
  
  
  2. Limiting number of slots that can carry missiles as well as guns
  
  - make missiles use a separate gun class (or 2-3) and remove all guns that use the current class (for example classes 4-6 might be used)
  - change hardpoints on all ships so that only 2 per ship can mount this class (missile one) as well as other gun classes, while others can mount only gun classes
  
  Pros
  
  - ships keep same cargo space no matter what they mount allowing more commodities to be carried
  
  Cons
  
  - doesn't take torps and mines into account
  - needs relatively extended editing (all ships in game (hardpoints and infocards), all missiles, removing the guns that use the slot)
  - missiles would need to be "squeezed" into only 1-3 classes, which might possibly allow low level ships to mount missiles of formerly much higher level (example Starblazer with Cannonball)
  
  3. Reducing refire rate of explosies
  Most explosives have 1.0 refire (torps 0.5). This can be easily reduced a bit
  
  Pros
  
  - easy to implement
  
  Cons
  
  - limited effect ("uber/useless" effect), even with 0.2 refire you can fire/drop one per each joust (so basically no change), refire even lower than that might keep people from ever using them
  
  4. Making explosives use energy when fired/dropped
  This is already done for Nukes to keep starfliers and similar from using them, some much higher energy use can be included
  
  Pros
  
  - easy to implement
  - easy to diversify between different explosives (nukes, torps, missiles)
  
  Cons
  
  - controversial effects: if the energy use is high enough to keep VHFs from firing more than 2 it would need to be around 6k, basically keeping LFs from ever using them, so it turns out as most limiting
  

' Wrote:I voted no to a change in damage output

And i think if we want to limit the amount of missiles equiped on a fighter it should be done through seprate missile slots.