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Hispania Armored Forces - HAF - Sir_Dark - 02-08-2009
*** Incoming Transmission ***
From: HAF-M-Sir_Dark, leader of the HAF
A: Everything Sirius
CC: Server Administrator
Greetings to all.
I am the leader of the HAF. First of all, I apologize to any public server for the misconduct by some Hafs in the past. Sometimes ignorance of the rules, sometimes by carelessness, not on purpose. Yet I apologize and I know that I ordered that nobody in the HAF breach any rules of the server and look good.
That said, he is the HAF contare How to get here and we are seeking.
The HAF is a community of online players that started 6 years ago in Freelancer. We were several years of server-server (many of you know any other servers HAF). Then we ignore the Freelancer and continue in other games.
A couple of months ago, we discovered this server. We taste some older drivers, along with new, we decided to create a HAF here with his classic role. After several discussions we decided to make Corsairs to achieve our goal, to make a new faction on this server.
The role of HAF is to be the Armed Forces Hispanic, as there are 4 of the big houses of Sirius. It was always this and this server is our goal.
So we started to Gamma, few at first, much later. Here the problems started. The OPGs never received either, I feared that this new faction that grew so fast, or something like that. The case is always looking for ways to provoke the HAF. Advantage of some mistakes (which everyone can commit) to declare war. Without giving us an opportunity, not to listen to anything. It showed its true intent, which is to prevent other forces emerge in Gamma.
At first the HAF not accept this war between brothers, this civil war, it seemed that some pathetic attack other Corsairs Corsairs. But seeing as they kill us all the time to accept the final.
Seeing this resistance, the OPGs opted to put in the rest of the war factions Corsair, and the Broters Benitez. Again, do not think a pathetic act?. Could not help themselves with some rookies in the server?.
And so we come to today, where we are called traitors and forced the pirates to attack independent. It's very funny, those who have started a war against their brethren call us traitors to us.
And now comes my reflection. Is it worth a whole community of players Freelancer loses his time on this server when a player is allowed to prevent the development of others, just because they do not like? What roles are there in that? What is morality and justice in that?. The HAF aims to be a faction only legal, but we do not allow the war. Claim that this madness cease immediately. If this server is justice and morality, someone should do something to halt this madness and let us play in peace.
Yes, I know we made mistakes, but let me make you a question, who has not committed any time?. We work hard so you do not happen more, but I do not see that is true if it allows a faction of the same clan do not stop playing the other. Stop to think a moment, leave aside the use the heart and mind. Do you think it is fair?
HAF announcement will follow in the Gamma and the rest of the space pirates, we are by Corsairs. And only attack if we are attacked. We have a right to exist and OPGs are not the owners of the server. Or do we?
PD: Sorry for my bad english, i am native of Hispania space.
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Hispania Armored Forces - HAF - globalplayer-svk - 02-08-2009
first, second, third, and all other times. it was decision maked by council that stated you as hostile for your actions. not OPG... (and no, i am not OPG member, i am the ooo great elder, or how i was called by your men...)
and provoke haf. hm sorry, but you tryed to destroy every diplomacy that was maked here long times ago. and nothing against noone, but when i am somewhere new, i first ask, or read, and then i shoot ....
and:
Seeing this resistance, the OPGs opted to put in the rest of the war factions Corsair, and the Broters Benitez. Again, do not think a pathetic act?. Could not help themselves with some rookies in the server?.
again, it was decision by council (leaders of opg,benitez,tbh +indie members.)
Hispania Armored Forces - HAF - FooFighter - 02-08-2009
At first...as mean as it might sound, if you don't speak English very well, I think this is not the right place for you. This is a roleplaying community, and thus mainly based on writing; and it's one thing if you do an error here and there or even be dyslexic, but while reading your text, I really wondered if it was done by Babelfish or another online translator, and I even had a hard time understanding what you were talking about in a couple of sentences. Understanding each other, however, is one of the most important things on a RP server.
Secondly...remember: *YOU* are new here. The OPG generally consists out of quite good roleplayers, they have established themselves on this server very well, they are part of our community and even, to some degree, shape the Corsair lore (like pretty much every official or otherwise well-established player group does with their respective factions). Now you suddenly jump on this server with a clan that has almost no background RP, consists mainly of people who don't know the server rules, haven't got a clue about the server rules, probably even lacking forum accounts and now you whine because people didn't give you free hand to do what you want. The OPG, being a well established official player faction with proper RP - unlike the HAF - has earned itself respect and thus also many rights that the HAF does not have. Either try to learn some English, weed out the rulebreaking, lolwutting or alternatively silently engaging id...individuals out of your faction, read up some Disco lore and adapt to the rules (written and unwritten) of this server, or look for another community; there are quite a couple of other active Freelancer communities who may be better suited for what you want to be.
Hispania Armored Forces - HAF - stewcool - 02-08-2009
*inserts 2 cents*
The order joined in the hostility because the Corsairs are our allies. That is why we joined in on the hostility toward you.
You were deemed hostile to them so we did the same
Hispania Armored Forces - HAF - Muleo - 02-08-2009
Fail.
Let me tell you why...
The HAF, as a whole, almost every single member, knows NOTHING of roleplaying. Even you, the so called leader, I have seen showing appalling lack of roleplay. The one time I did see you roleplaying, you put // marks in front of your text.
You cannot just appear in Gamma, and expect everyone to accept you. Especially if all you do in your time is cause trouble. Going to Kusari and attacking Kusari lawfuls, and threatening to attack AFA and Hogosha, breaking freeport rules, attacking Phantoms, shooting at and killing people setting up to join the Corsairs, while Elders were telling at you to cease your fire. None of these are acceptable, especially not if you are all grouped together with the HAF tag.
And no, the OPG weren't the one to declare war on you and 'drag the Benitez into it'. You are either lying through your teeth to try and win some undeserved sympathy, or you are stupid. Every single Elder of the Corsair Council except Laowai, which has representatives from the OPG, TBH and Benitez voted against the HAF. Laowai as the indy representative, was the only one to vote against, as his character never condones the shooting of other Corsairs, but oorp, he admitted the HAF need to go away. The OPG is the most active Corsair faction at the moment, and being Gentle's 2nd in command, I was the one to write the declaration of war against the HAF not in the name of the OPG, but as a representative from the Corsair Council.
You say the OPG never gave you a chance. The first time we encountered the HAF was when a new OPG recruit was travelling to Crete, he was converting one of his old chars into a Corsair. With a Rheinland Military tag, a Wrath, and a trader ID, he came to Crete, with the Name '//setting.up.char'. You shot at him. Gentle told you to stop your firing, you didn't listen, and killed the recruit. Gentle was furious and ordered all HAF to be KoS. I logged on, and found a swarm of HAF lulwutting and speaking spanish all over the place, and I proceeded to kill half a dozen of them, then HAF-Cosmo pleaded for us to have patience. He promised to make sure all the HAF wouldn't speak spanish, that all the HAF would learn the rules, that the HAF would stop talking OOC and rulelawyering. I decided to give you time. That was on the 16th of January. Almost a month later, with no improvement on HAF's behalf, and the ever increasing complaints about the HAF, both in RP and OORP, the Council made a decision.
Every single member, every single faction on this server, has worked long and hard, gaining the discipline to stay in RP, taking the time to learn the nooks and crannies of the Discovery universe, and gaining the respect of each other. You cannot expect us to accept you in the state that the HAF are currently in.
If you cannot understand this, there is very little hope for you or your faction on this server.
There are no excuses you can make for your failures.
"We did not know who the Elders were"
Forming a Corsair clan, that should have been the first thing you looked up.
"We do not speak english very well"
This is an english server.
"We do not know the rules" or "We do not know how to roleplay"
You should have knowledge of both before attempting to form a clan.
"We need more time"
You were given plenty.
Get rid of the tag.
Learn how to be players on the Disco server. Learn how to roleplay. THEN try to make a faction. Not the other way around.
Hispania Armored Forces - HAF - BaconSoda - 02-08-2009
If it means anything, I'll tell you right now that the OPG started off the same way you have, so far. Not many people liked them, I don't think, and they took at lot of flak for their mixing of OPG and OTC characters into one faction, and I do believe they got several warning from the admins at the time.
Now, then, what Mule is saying, he is saying having been in the same seat you were in. Please, take his advice, and restart new on the server, like the OPG did.
Hispania Armored Forces - HAF - Sir_Dark - 02-08-2009
Now HAF know rules, and know your rol system. Reclaim other oportunity. If you accept i make one promise, if HAF breack rules (writes and dont writes) HAF disband.
If all you say ist true, dont view problem to accept this and stop the civil war, not?
Hispania Armored Forces - HAF - Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 02-08-2009
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Understanding is very important here... and...
I dont know if you could roleplay if you dont know english very well..
Hispania Armored Forces - HAF - Kambei - 02-09-2009
sugestion?
Rename all your ships:)start from begining like unknown new groupe and generaly new behavior (no oorp in chat, carefull dyplomacy etc. etc.). Everybody will be happy, you, them and game bacame fun again for you.
Hispania Armored Forces - HAF - Sir_Dark - 02-09-2009
Tnks for you comments, but dissolve HAF not is acceptable.
"Now HAF know rules, and know your rol system. Reclaim other oportunity. If you accept i make one promise, if HAF breack rules (writes and dont writes) HAF disband.
If all you say ist true, dont view problem to accept this and stop the civil war, not?"
I waithing for one answer...