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LG| Loyola Guard - LG| - 10-25-2019
LG| Officialdom Request
Hello, community. It's beed decided that we try and apply for the officialdom.
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Money can be taken from Banco.de.Loyola
Hello, community. It's beed decided that we try and apply for the officialdom.
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Proposed ID:
Quote:Loyola Guard is an Outcast paramilitary unit aligned with the Loyola family.
Member carrying this unlawful ID is a member of LG who:
- Can attack any ships within their Zone of Influence, except transports.
- Can demand cargo and credits from any ship within their Zone of Influence, and attack them if they do not comply.
- Can treat ships carrying Artifacts or Stabiline as combat targets.
- Can fulfill bounty and escort contacts within their Zone of Influence.
- Cannot use any transports with more than 4,300 cargo.
Zone of Influence: Bretonia, Liberty, Kusari, Taus, Sigmas, Omicrons, Gallic Borderworlds, Magellan, Cortez, Coronado, Galileo, Kepler, Inverness
Allowed ships: Fighters, Freighters, Transports, Gunboats, Cruisers, Battleships
Money can be taken from Banco.de.Loyola
RE: LG| Loyola Tactical Solutions Group LTD - t0l - 10-26-2019
is this a tal ravis knockoff
RE: LG| Loyola Tactical Solutions Group LTD - Megaera - 10-26-2019
You can literally pirate anything without ZoI?
Isn't that abit OP?
RE: LG| Loyola Tactical Solutions Group LTD - Shiki - 10-26-2019
(10-26-2019, 01:14 AM)Megaera Wrote: You can literally pirate anything without ZoI?
Isn't that abit OP?
The generic publically available Outcast ID can pirate in I think it was around 80 systems. While able to fly 5k transports and battleships to use them in said 80 systems. I do think that it's OP, and in case of our ID I think I have nerfed it a little. Piracy right now brings not a lot and being more of the RP element to bring unlawful charm to the faction.
Naturally, our ID will be under faction control and will not be publically available.
(10-26-2019, 01:05 AM)t0l Wrote: is this a tal ravis knockoff
Yes, I am afraid.
RE: LG| Loyola Tactical Solutions Group LTD - SnakThree - 10-26-2019
No ZOI, ability to attack anyone who your own faction declares hostile, ability to claim bounties AND pirate anyone? And even 4300 cargo ships out of the blue. This is grossly overtuned ID.
What ID are you using now, since there is no information despite it being mandatory per official faction request rules.
RE: LG| Loyola Tactical Solutions Group LTD - Shiki - 10-26-2019
@SnakThree
Quote: No ZOI, ability to attack anyone who your own faction declares hostile, ability to claim bounties AND pirate anyone? And even 4300 cargo ships out of the blue. This is grossly overtuned ID.
We are basing on the Outcast ID.
We are dropping battleships and 5kers from the ID, this should not be a thing, 4.3k is the de-facto standard for non-generic factions.
Outcast ID says "Can attack any ships" I've changed it to the one that actually forces follow diplomacy, I do think that's better. And that's a weaker line.
Every ID can claim bounties really. I mean there are somewhat about 2-3 boards Sirius-wide that we can hope for, considering most of the boards are House owned and we won't cooperate with actual House affiliates ever. Because I restrict players from dealing with House enforces or affiliated corps. Yikes.
I did not write it out of my head, Snank, I was looking at existing public IDs. For example public and freely available without any officialdom or recruitment procedure Coalition ID (the only practical difference is that it's able to police illegal cargo globally instead of piracy):
Quote:Pilot carrying this unlawful ID is a member of the Coalition, who:
- Can attack any ship in self-defense or to protect an allied ship.
- Can attack ships which belong to a house or organization considered hostile by the Coalition, except transports.
- Can demand Slaves, Cardamine, Liquid Cardamine, Artifacts, Nox, Hypnotainment Bands, Nomad equipment, Nomad remains, and attack if ships refuse to comply.
- Cannot use any transports with more than 4,300 cargo.
- Cannot participate in unlawful actions except as described above.
Allowed ships: Fighters, Freighters, Transports, Gunboats, Cruisers
And the Outcast ID which we are basing on for reference. With the ability to attack literally everyone without considering any diplomacy on battleships in what should be around 80 systems. Lazy to count.
Quote:Pilot carrying this unlawful ID is a member of the Outcasts, who:
- Can attack any ships within their Zone of Influence, except transports.
- Can demand cargo and credits from any ship within their Zone of Influence, and attack them if they do not comply.
- Can treat ships carrying Artifacts or Stabiline as combat targets.
- Cannot ally with any lawfuls except when allying with Bretonia or Rheinland lawfuls
Zone of Influence: Bretonia, Liberty, Kusari, Taus, Sigmas, Omicrons, Gallic Borderworlds, Magellan, Cortez, Coronado, Galileo, Kepler, Inverness
Allowed ships: Fighters, Freighters, Transports, Gunboats, Cruisers, Battleships
This is a powerful ID, but nothing extraordinary comparing to existing indie IDs.
RE: LG| Loyola Tactical Solutions Group LTD - Liberty.In - 10-26-2019
You are discussing a faction that is not even a month old. And you think about whether to give her official status or not.
It’s funny.
RE: LG| Loyola Tactical Solutions Group LTD - Shiki - 10-26-2019
@
Sadly no one is discussing the faction, only ID lines.
RE: LG| Loyola Tactical Solutions Group LTD - Liberty.In - 10-26-2019
(10-26-2019, 10:23 AM)Sicicega Wrote: @Liberty.In
Sadly no one is discussing the faction, only ID lines.
This does not negate the fact that the faction, not having a rating on the background of the rest, seeks to obtain official status "on the go."
Try to get comfortable, being this fraction, to understand whether it is worth its 500 million. As a newbie to this mod, I noticed "fractions for 1 month" - these are the guys who initially look cool, do something, and then fall silent. Just because in this faction is nothing to do. I would like people to think more before doing. I do not want to offend anyone, but still.
RE: LG| Loyola Tactical Solutions Group LTD - Shiki - 10-26-2019
(10-26-2019, 10:34 AM)Liberty.In Wrote:(10-26-2019, 10:23 AM)Sicicega Wrote: @Liberty.In
Sadly no one is discussing the faction, only ID lines.
This does not negate the fact that the faction, not having a rating on the background of the rest, seeks to obtain official status "on the go."
Try to get comfortable, being this fraction, to understand whether it is worth its 500 million. As a newbie to this mod, I noticed "fractions for 1 month" - these are the guys who initially look cool, do something, and then fall silent. Just because in this faction is nothing to do. I would like people to think more before doing. I do not want to offend anyone, but still.
There's always a risk of losing interest or rage quitting, no one is safe from stress or IRL problems. I started off with GCs, having some experience with the Outcast ID factions in particular. NC- and L\- is something that I wrote and it's not like they did too bad. Though L\- got official from the second attempt when I was away. In any case, I have learned something from the mistakes of two said factions. This particular idea I had back in 2017 and got some draft even, but my character got busy with the Core|. This is a well-thought concept it, but I understand why it seems rushed for you.
People who I gathered for this know what we are doing. I like creating concepts and I love when some people are joining to play it. This idea got people who did not write RP in years to go and write something in LG|. Which is touching for me and as of now it's already worth it.
Biggest risks I see are about balancing the faction origin and what it meant to be, which is pretty close to BHG for unlawful purposes. It will be challenging and fun at the same time, explaining it to unlawful groups who we want to support, that yes we kinda look like the Outcasts, but we just sell some services. End even this application by itself will make some people take us differently.
500m is something that is a lot for me because as we speak I will be left with like 17 million in my bank once GMs will take money.
EDIT: no i am not a hypocrite, i love pvp too
EDIT2: trading is pretty bad though