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Researcher id - Fenikss74 - 03-24-2009
Hello, I will combinate my request with RP
It's hard to RP with researcher id because of restrictions of this id.
I would like that researchers can:
Carry any type of cargo --- Because researchers should get premission to carry mined stuff for researching
Can mine --- Because researchers should mine and research mined stuff
And there should be special class for miners (I can't understand why mining ships are transports).
Anyway, if its possible i would like to have these updates in next discovery update. It is hard to RP with researcher because of right now its based on illegal goods.
There could be a: Researcher/Miner id (special for researchers who mine)
I had a lot of probems flying with researcher id:
1st: You are carrying illegal goods
2nd: You have unallowed cargo in your bay
Thank you, Fenikss
Researcher id - tazuras - 03-24-2009
I can see some reasoning behind this. I was actually planning on making a terraforming researcher (I actually already have him and he uses a civilian ID) but now I realize I cant do this because because the ID wont allow me to carry the materials necessary for terraforming research (atmospheric gasses, terraforming gas, water, mining equipment, etc). I have to agree that researchers should be allowed to carry any cargo (ID-wise) but that any cargo not already listed on the ID can't take up more than x cargo spaces or more than x percent of their hold to prevent powertraders exploiting the researcher ID.
Researcher id - AdamantineFist - 03-25-2009
Personally, I also think that researchers should be allowed the Zoner GB, with similar restrictions to the Kusari Explorer. Seems like the sort of ship that really fits the bill for a Zoner researcher. Small, good cargo-hold, well armoured for the rigors of Omicron space.
Researcher id - MacAulay - 03-25-2009
' Wrote:Personally, I also think that researchers should be allowed the Zoner GB, with similar restrictions to the Kusari Explorer. Seems like the sort of ship that really fits the bill for a Zoner researcher. Small, good cargo-hold, well armoured for the rigors of Omicron space.
I think the corvo cruiser more appropriate in this case. Being listed as an 'exploration vessel'.
Have to agree with the OP. Researchers cargo restrictions mean that you char becomes nothing more than a high tech egghead smuggler. Mining would be good, mixed with increase in mining rate for organisms/artifacts.
I liked playing my researcher, but the novelty soon wore off when I relaised just how limited I was. The RP could only take this char so far.
As to cargo, I regularly carried water and food rations in my hold along with crew and scientists. I was unclear as to if this was legal but as I wasnt trading in these goods (ID says can only trade in cetain goods, says nothing about 'carrying')I assumed it was ok. Can someone clarify that?
Researcher id - tazuras - 03-25-2009
Oops, my entire post here may have been unnecessary, oh well, dont I feel silly now...
Researcher id - Fenikss74 - 03-25-2009
I agree about that High tech smuggler, because of these restrictions...
And it seems researchers can't mine for science uses. If there is the Researcher id it should be more like in the real life. Right now its just so restricted so you can't normaly RP and you violate rules a lot because of restrictions.
Fenikss
Researcher id - Hawkwings - 03-25-2009
Surely there is a great difference between the zoner exploration cruiser and the zoner gunboat. Both should be allowed for researcher IDs. Also, if you want to go by the "carrying" vs "trading" distinction, you can currently "carry" whatever you want in your hold, but only buy and sell whatever cargo is allowed.
Researcher id - MacAulay - 03-25-2009
' Wrote:I agree about that High tech smuggler, because of these restrictions...
And it seems researchers can't mine for science uses. If there is the Researcher id it should be more like in the real life. Right now its just so restricted so you can't normaly RP and you violate rules a lot because of restrictions.
Fenikss
You can actually mine, but you just cant sell anything you mine other than Artifacts and Alien Organisms. But then again, lets face it, those two are probably what you would be researching. If you were to mine any of the other resources (gold/silver etc) then sell them that would be a breach of researcher ID. Not sure how that rule stands when trading with other players instead of landing and selling though. Could be another exploitable loop hole.
Also, IMG produces an exploration ship that would no doubt be used for researching new sources of minerals. It stands to reason that such a ship SHOULD be allowed to carry and trade in all mine-able resources if you ask me. To simulate the ship returning ore samples etc to its research dept.
Researcher id - MacAulay - 03-25-2009
' Wrote:Surely there is a great difference between the zoner exploration cruiser and the zoner gunboat. Both should be allowed for researcher IDs.
I said nothing about there NOT being a difference between the 2 ships. I merely stated that the 'Exploration Vessel' was more appropriate by nature of its very description.
Researcher id - Silmathien - 08-22-2009
Sorry for dig out that old Discussion, but can someone explain to me, why Researcher can't land on unlawful bases? Especially if they carry most of the time illegal goods?