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Wilds 2020: Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them - Groshyr - 11-27-2020
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I believe many were annoyed by Wilds' complaining about metagaming and their attempts to powergame. However, now they can not just fly house military ships (sometimes without making a single post of RP about how they obtained some certain ships like the bretonian battlecruiser in their ranks) as indie ID'ed (I hope the only indie), but with |Aoi tag. What does this mean? Now you can't disclose a Wild within the ranks of the organization by the former traits like scrambled IFF. Nowadays, the only way to disclose a wild, as it seems, is to have wild's ooRP agree for this, what is, I believe, is not fair. House intelligence, the Core and the Order now have to either play a fool which believes the |Aoi is a special super-secret section of the navy/military/police/etc. rather than a person with fantastic beasts in their body or to metagame knowledge about the wild.
Is it bad? So far, there always an explanation for wild's action - they are seeding chaos around. However, if you caught a wild - you are a metagamer. Amusing logic, is it? Probably I'm blind, but in current conditions, especially taking into the account mentioned rule update, I see no way to RP with Wild and force them to be disclosed without exactly metagaming. With this rule, it seems, they obtained absolute plot armour for their only official faction - the Aoi. Therefore, here my questions to the community.
1) Are you satisfied with this rule? If you are not, would like this change to go?
2) Do you have any idea how to counter Wilds' plot armour without being claimed a metagamer? Not by the wild, but the community in general.
3) Perhaps, there is a solution in similarly boosting intelligence ID?
RE: Wilds 2020: Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them - SnakThree - 11-27-2020
Absolute nonsense this is.
RE: Wilds 2020: Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them - Lemon - 11-27-2020
Seems very suspect that one Wild faction gets officialdom application rejected and the only remaining one gets rules changed in a big way in the ir favor right afterwards just for themselves. Get the tinfoil hats on!
RE: Wilds 2020: Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them - Shimamori - 11-27-2020
This change, actually, provides a chance to make the IDs of the Order and the Core as two anti-alien factions to matter more. Perhaps, they should be capable of "bypassing" identifying Wild players by tags or something to reflect their advanced specialised software/hardware for detecting aliens.
It can also be applied to the house intelligence factions to make the ID more distinct from the navy, in two ways, actually.
- to allow the intelligence to use multiple IDs too to "spy".
- to allow the intelligence to detect foreign intelligence and wild by tags to reflect their intelligence/coutnerintelligence profile, like databases on the local ships, persons, etc.
If Wild ID is left like that with no counters, that is a huge hit against the RP immersion - aliens are among us after 27 ago there was a huge conflict against them and the proper House agencies know of the possibility of infestation, yet they cannot counter it in any way. Seems a bit unfair to me.
RE: Wilds 2020: Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them - Decktare - 11-27-2020
ID is always above the rules.
How Corsair ID will be used with the |Aoi tag?
If he attacks a corsair with the tag, he enforces the rules of his ID.
RE: Wilds 2020: Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them - SquigglyKey - 11-27-2020
As it stands, the Wild players using an indie ID with an |Aoi tag are still required to adhere to the indie ID lines. They can't go gallavanting off into the depths of the Omicrons with a Valor on an indie ID. Its mainly a quality of life change to allow them to actually gain activity and roleplay without others instantly turning up and saying 'bomad spotted, engag all guns'
If you catch them doing Nomad related things on an indie ID, then you'd go through the usual channels to apply inRP consequences for their actions.
RE: Wilds 2020: Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them - Decktare - 11-27-2020
Could it be that way? BAF|HMS-Shipname|Aoi
One character in two factions at the same time?
RE: Wilds 2020: Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them - Shiki - 11-27-2020
(11-27-2020, 07:45 PM)Decktare Wrote: Could it be that way? BAF|HMS-Shipname|Aoi
One character in two factions at the same time?
Not multiply tags are not allowed.
(11-27-2020, 07:29 PM)Shimamori Wrote: This change, actually, provides a chance to make the IDs of the Order and the Core as two anti-alien factions to matter more. Perhaps, they should be capable of "bypassing" identifying Wild players by tags or something to reflect their advanced specialised software/hardware for detecting aliens.
It can also be applied to the house intelligence factions to make the ID more distinct from the navy, in two ways, actually.
- to allow the intelligence to use multiple IDs too to "spy".
- to allow the intelligence to detect foreign intelligence and wild by tags to reflect their intelligence/coutnerintelligence profile, like databases on the local ships, persons, etc.
If Wild ID is left like that with no counters, that is a huge hit against the RP immersion - aliens are among us after 27 ago there was a huge conflict against them and the proper House agencies know of the possibility of infestation, yet they cannot counter it in any way. Seems a bit unfair to me.
Also that's a interesting idea
RE: Wilds 2020: Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them - Decktare - 11-27-2020
(11-27-2020, 07:48 PM)Shiki Wrote:(11-27-2020, 07:45 PM)Decktare Wrote: Could it be that way? BAF|HMS-Shipname|Aoi
One character in two factions at the same time?
Not multiply tags are not allowed.
Rule? I can't find it.
RE: Wilds 2020: Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them - Shiki - 11-27-2020
(11-27-2020, 07:49 PM)Decktare Wrote:(11-27-2020, 07:48 PM)Shiki Wrote:(11-27-2020, 07:45 PM)Decktare Wrote: Could it be that way? BAF|HMS-Shipname|Aoi
One character in two factions at the same time?
Not multiply tags are not allowed.
Rule? I can't find it.
All factions created fall under these
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