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[Story]O-49,Grand Vista Molly/Coalition vs Corsair Conflict - Bretonia Rogue Ragers - 05-06-2021

Hello, with the development system rework we will try to take all story proposal ideas into the open discussion instead
We would very much appreciate if any involved parties and Story, Systems who are off the clock gave us suggestions on the thing we are missing as well.

This thread is asking for help with fleshing out Molly, Coalition vs Core vs Corsairs conflict with Core caught in the middle proposal we'd like to make - but have no chance of formulating it properly without feedback and input from other parties.

There was clearly shown player interest in the almost completely forgotten about conflict in our test event, The Poole Rammy


The Gyst is this
1) Molly vs Corsairs is a big big deal in infocards and rumors especially but has not been touched by story in YEARS AND YEARS.
- even during the war, a beaten corsair Battlegroup just casually flew through Molly infested Dublin without any mention of issues or even attention from Mollys.
2) Grand Vista Orbital is now Core. It is surrounded by Coalition Mollys, Raiding Corsairs and Zoners that would probably want it back. There's little resources for Core to be had in 49, they lost Bretonian protection after their withdrawal - it just makes little sense for Core to want to keep holding the base.


Rough first idea
  • Mollys + Coalition Fight Corsairs in 49 to develop the conflict
  • The impact of the fight would be - ??? Help out please - Do Mollys/Coalition push into 41 against Sairs + damage their base as they are busy in Dresden? Do they lose and get pushed back or something else? Only making Core move doesn't seem like progressing the neglected conflict
  • Core are caught in the middle, surrounded by only hostiles and abandon Grand Vista, it then goes to - ??? help out please, Zoners? OSC? Mollys? Someone else? Gets destroyed?
  • The idle Core Battleship Mars gets deployed to help with evacuation, to remain in a West/South Omegas hidden somewhere
    -Core keep same amount of useful dockable solars in Omegas, can actually use Mars as a chess piece with some progression finally for Core in Omegas.


A story event could be proposed too we assume in the same request
-Probably Molly/Coalition vs Sairs vs Core with Core/APM + everyone interested evacuation trade element ?

Please give feedback, help formulate the idea - once it's fleshed out enough we will send it as a request to story team to proceed with implementing the idea. It can't be done without you.


RE: [Story]O-49,Grand Vista Molly/Coalition vs Corsair Conflict - Lusitano - 05-06-2021

As Zoner of Gran Canaria i would like that all other leave Omega 49 but ... we all know that will not happen so:

First Corsair attack by surprise and take Rippon Tor Blacksite, and Corsairs get a base on Omega 49, Mollies and Coallition, attack the Corsairs to take it and expel then from Omega 49 (good option for an major event.The Core are like " f this crap, we are going to take care of Omega 55"another great option for a major event, and return Gran Vista to the Zoners. What left of Zoners on Gran canaria are more concerned about the climate situation and how to survive on it, and don't care about they shooting each other.


RE: [Story]O-49,Grand Vista Molly/Coalition vs Corsair Conflict - Lemon - 05-06-2021

Rippon is an issue...it's already is useless/mysterious (cool - mystery with no progress)
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Bretonian withdrawal from Gran Canaria have left this base in a difficult situation, and it is unclear if the base will be used for its intendeed purpose, or at all.

Traffic to and from Rippon Tor is very tightly regulated, and the station was constructed to have as low a sensor profile as possible to further hide it within the Tenerife Cloud. The design of the base suggestions something was meant to be attached to it.

But that also means it's damn well hidden - how would Corsairs even find out about it


EDIT: NVM, what you said - Rippon as hidden sair base, they somehow find out - it doesn't need a big operation as there's fuckall guard I assume, it's just hidden.

And 49 becomes The Molly/Coalition vs Sair long-term battleground system, with Zoners caught in the middle trying to please all sides trying to prevent a disaster to their bases

(with a battlezone without core/baf)



I guess issue is PvE Zone impedes PvP
- but could be off plane maybe?


RE: [Story]O-49,Grand Vista Molly/Coalition vs Corsair Conflict - Lusitano - 05-06-2021

the problem of that long term battleground, is that other places may lose importance, like Omega 55 and Omega 47, that have more important than Omega 49, since there is nothing left to fight there while the other places aremuch more important because their resources.

i gave some ideas, but i think the devs team could createmore evants, pew pew events, and events that actions decide the story development,

in any case, sairs have their base on omega 49, Zoners get Gran Vista back, and try to manage what to to with a snowball planet


RE: [Story]O-49,Grand Vista Molly/Coalition vs Corsair Conflict - Lemon - 05-06-2021

I suppose just making a pure PvP system is ok yes
- decent missions can be given instead so PvE zone doesn't impede PvP but makes people log
(and the default Dev guidelines are the more contested the system the better missions you can give afaik)


Still - do zoners need another base there? from systems standpoint you'd have 3 docking places in a close vicinity - Why not someone neutral who helps with cleanup and supplies etc? (Like I dunno . . .Junkers, who also can play all sides)


RE: [Story]O-49,Grand Vista Molly/Coalition vs Corsair Conflict - Lusitano - 05-06-2021

Gran Vista was stolen ...Core got it has a gift but it is a stolen gift. Also with the slow frezzing of the planet, soon Gran Canaria will become practically uninhabitable, so those who didn't left on the current migration event, will need a place to be. For me Lanzarote and Gran Vista and even Freeport 14, coulld join in a The Ring style base over the planet with Tarrafal protecting it.

Also the system is huge, so there is room for a lot of missions,


RE: [Story]O-49,Grand Vista Molly/Coalition vs Corsair Conflict - Bretonia Rogue Ragers - 05-06-2021

Request posted, Core prefers to talk to devs directly themselves

This thread was asked to be reviewed in request - please keep posting comments/issues/implications


RE: [Story]O-49,Grand Vista Molly/Coalition vs Corsair Conflict - Lusitano - 05-06-2021

well all i have to say already said! i think from the zoner point of view all was said, but ... it never mattered Smile


RE: [Story]O-49,Grand Vista Molly/Coalition vs Corsair Conflict - Lord Helmchen - 05-06-2021

As 1ic of OS&C, I would say we don't want Grand Vista Orbital. it would make little sense for us to take over that Station as we had to take it by Force and the Zoners won't like that. we have a POB/Liner in that system and want INRP Good Relations with them.

My Opinion is to give that thing back to the Zoners as some sort of Orbital Colony where they can try to Turn Gran Canaria back to its old State. maybe they could accept the help of Planetform in this matter.

for me, the base should get Nuked INRP when anyone else than the Zoners Capture it. it haves too much Strategic Value to leave it for anyone else.


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RE: [Story]O-49,Grand Vista Molly/Coalition vs Corsair Conflict - Lusitano - 05-06-2021

i think zoners would rather freeze than asking help from a bretonian company!