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Consultation: Revised server rules - jammi - 11-18-2023

Hi all. Staff have collectively been looking at the server rules with an eye to simplifying them - the current set have broadly been considered unfit for purpose for a while. The rules being confusing and intimidating is one of the most common bits of new player feedback we receive.

We've now produced a revised ruleset that has been considerably streamlined, and that we hope will make for an easier acclimatisation for new community members. We're putting this ruleset out for community consultation, to get as wide a range of feedback as possible.

This is probably the largest proposed revision in years, so we want to make sure we get it right. Please feel free to provide commentary and suggestions in this thread, but keep things constructive and on-topic.

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Changelog based on feedback:
  • Changed 'Can attack Alien ships' to 'Can attack Alien IDs'.
  • Corrected various commodity names on Alien Materials list.
  • Added Uncharted materials to Alien Materials list.
  • Added gunboats to ship classifications.



RE: Consultation: Revised server rules - Wildkins - 11-18-2023

very cool looks perfect


RE: Consultation: Revised server rules - tommygun209 - 11-19-2023

SR 2.3: Should probably add "except for Alien IDs" to "Attack Alien ships" line as it doesn't make much sense for Wild to attack Nomad ships, Nomads to attack fellow Nomads and so on
SR 2.4: Change Xeno Artifact to Xeno Relics(to avoid confusion), change "Sorted Artifacts", replace with "Low-grade Artifacts"(same reason), probably add definition of "Alien" to that paragraph too


RE: Consultation: Revised server rules - Kauket - 11-19-2023

Shouldn't the uncharted stuff also be considered 'Alien Materials' for Intels/law enforcements to demand?


Also I don't recommend keeping the system definition lists in spoiler, because keeping it outside of spoiler tags means you can ctrl+f for system to quickly find it.


RE: Consultation: Revised server rules - Pennyfield - 11-19-2023

Addition to 2.1:

Be reasonable about this as not all players understand English that well.


(On many occasions I have witnessed ‘trigger happy’ people who just don’t wait for someone to draft a response. Give it time, be human and see rule 1.0 when in doubt)


RE: Consultation: Revised server rules - Lemon - 11-19-2023

damn, so any faction can make blanked bounties now without being OF
and Corse, hogosha IDs get a buff and can be hired on the spot Wink


RE: Consultation: Revised server rules - Lord Caedus - 11-19-2023

Yeah I'd say you need a solid definition of "Alien" as per 2.3, it is unclear if this would mean Nomads, Wild, or potentially an "Alien" faction that isn't the nomads but uses their ships.


RE: Consultation: Revised server rules - jammi - 11-19-2023

(11-19-2023, 12:44 AM)Max Morse Wrote: Yeah I'd say you need a solid definition of "Alien" as per 2.3, it is unclear if this would mean Nomads, Wild, or potentially an "Alien" faction that isn't the nomads but uses their ships.

Alien is a type of ID. All Nomads, Wild etc say "This is an Alien ID that...".

That said, easily amended to read,

"May attack non-Allied Alien IDs"


RE: Consultation: Revised server rules - Lord Caedus - 11-19-2023

(11-19-2023, 12:49 AM)jammi Wrote:
(11-19-2023, 12:44 AM)Max Morse Wrote: Yeah I'd say you need a solid definition of "Alien" as per 2.3, it is unclear if this would mean Nomads, Wild, or potentially an "Alien" faction that isn't the nomads but uses their ships.

Alien is a type of ID. All Nomads, Wild etc say "This is an Alien ID that...".

That said, easily amended to read,

"May attack non-Allied Alien IDs"

I thought there might be an intent for some sort of other Alien group to be introduced at a later date, perhaps regarding the hostiles in Earhart.

Edit: Quick additional point to add, might want to add a line about admin/mod review of non-official bounty boards, to make sure they aren't too easily set up.


RE: Consultation: Revised server rules - Tenshi Kuonji - 11-19-2023

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Consider instead just keep the Battlecrusier Classification under the Crusier Category, after all, a Battlecrusier isn't no more than just a heavy crusier with heavier weaponry or made it to last longer from battle than crusier,
It can be really weird i know, but actually the battlecrusiers are doing the job of a crusier instead of a small battleship instead, is not compesated to be a battleship or keep a class for years has been actually a crusier class just with little more power and armor

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Dresden should be more kinda classified as Independent system, and not omegas every house has his capital at least surrounded, dresden now with the push of the rheinland military fleet should remain as rheinland, but if not should be "independent" instead of omega system, because well, isn't an omega in reality ¬¬ or i should call it "Omega-Dresden system?

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I would be adding a rule to the 2.3 if i wanna be really precise
from:
"2.3- All IDs can:
Attack Alien ships.
Attack any ship to defend Allies, except while flying Cruisers, Battlecruisers, or Battleships."
To:
"2.3- All IDs can:
Attack Alien ships.
Attack any ship to defend Allies, except while flying Cruisers, Battlecruisers, or Battleships.
Attack on self-defense even outside ZoI, to defend a ship with the same identification (IFF/ID) or if he is in your same group"

Reason: There has been lot of reports recently, i don't want to hear something like "I report him because he attack me when i attack him, we currently had a crystal generation, and i don't wanna see another threat were the admins sanctioned a whole faction and even dare write a complete solo-report against me because i was self defending outside the ZoI or defend someone that even outside ZoI, because that is how should escort need to work, and not being reported for be in same group with same group affiliation and doing the task of defending an allied ship against another specially if is from one on mutual enemy"

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"Baffin, Edinburgh, Orkney, Roussillon" Why declare them as Tau ... well, i must just ask, but would not they fit more as independent? some of them were actually a Tau
Rousillion was Tau-115 is the only system i actually remember (since like 15 years or even more) to have the actual name of it, everyone else were threated as "Independent worlds"
Baffin was as i remember Baffin, a zoner calmed system in all his traversy
Orkney known as Britanny (what hateful name) was as i remember always as Independent System
Edinburgh i personally always be seen as independent system, since even in vanilla just a small BPA ships, OSC, Planetform and Gaians were situated in that system even knowing is a "Border system from Bretonia" even in vanilla declaration itself

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That are my actual notes for it ... where still beliving New Berlin should be "Surrounded or hugged" by his core systems, and not only have one side open ... and some systems are actually really badly classified, i could keep as Tohoku to be a Kusari system as always (infected, but still, a system from them) more than just independent, and can be considered my own personnal opinion ...

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