(01-29-2025, 02:43 AM)Stewgar Wrote: 5. No signs of war. What this means is...

(01-29-2025, 02:43 AM)Stewgar Wrote: 4. Only vanilla content please - not Discovery mod information is to be used.

Mission 5 Dialogue Wrote:Sinclair: Look around you, Miss Zane. You are standing in the living history of the Daam-K’Vosh. A race that predates early man by over 10 million years!
Sinclair: Up until recently, relatively speaking, they were the inhabitants of much of our new home here in Sirius. I’ve been working for years to piece together fragments of their past: their culture, technology, language – anything! These panels here have been the core of my research. They’ve shed light on some of their writings, but thanks to this piece, I’m close to unlocking their code. Yes, I know quite a lot about this artefact, but not why anyone would want to kill for it.

Mission 13 Dialogue Wrote:Sinclair: As you know, Doctor Quintaine and I have pored through the translations from the panels, the Proteus Tome, and even the stolen data from the prison ship. It seems the Daam-K’Vosh had a vast empire long before man ever evolved.
Trent: So if these guys were so much more advanced than us, where are they now?
Quintaine: We don’t know, Mr Trent. There’s no evidence to suggest any kind of war or disease or natural disaster that may have done away with them. They just vanished, leaving behind the Nomads.
Sinclair: It seems Nomads, or whatever they were really called – we can’t pronounce the name yet – they were apparently created by the Daam-K’Vosh to, well, look after things.
Trent: We’re fighting the caretakers?
Sinclair: Well, in a manner of speaking. They are opportunistic parasites, not only of Human beings, but of technology, as well.
Quintaine: Which brings us to the artefact. The Daam-K’Vosh had an amazingly advanced technology that was only partially based in these delicate formations. They used them for power, shields, erm… this one is, a, erm… well, we’ll show you. Kendra?
Sinclair: I discovered that if the computer sounded out the phonetic representation of the glyphs in a particular order–
Jacobi: Please, Doctor, in deference to those for us who are simple politicians…
Sinclair: Very well.

[...]

Orillion: I’ll be damned.
Jacobi: It’s beautiful!
Trent: What’s that?
Sinclair: That would be us. The artefact knows where it is in space at all times. It’s a map!
Juni: But of what?
Sinclair: Well, it’s just a theory, but–
Orillion: Spit it out, Doctor!
Quintaine: From what we now know, with an empire as large as the Daam-K’Vosh, they couldn’t rely on simple jump-gates like we have today. They had to develop something more sophisticated. A vast array of hyper-gates linking the far corners of their empire via one incredibly fast system for travel. This device is not only the map, it’s the trigger. A key to reawakening the system!
Orillion: Are you suggesting we turn this thing on?
Quintaine: Yes. If we can reactivate the hyper-gates, we’ll break the hold of the Nomads on their power supply and cut them down to a more manageable size. In theory.

(01-29-2025, 02:48 AM)Kauket Wrote: ...in the campaign, you see the starmap for various places across the entire galaxy. Remember that they had a hypergate to jump across entire regions. There's no way that their entire species was in Sirius, it seemed Sirius was more of a sandboxing area for the fun of it

Also entirely possible that their physical form wasn't made out of matter but out of energy or anything else.

(01-29-2025, 03:03 AM)Chronicron Wrote: easier to think of DKV being like the protheans with slightly more psychoesoteric chronozaza and existing billions of years prior. otherwise interpretations of them might create overlapping confusions. nomads already sometimes cause this enough.

(01-29-2025, 03:37 AM)The_Godslayer Wrote: A lot of good shit

(01-31-2025, 04:05 PM)Stewgar Wrote: Most of the artifacts and infrastructure has been found on planets. Besides the dyson sphere and hypergate, there's nothing found in space. For a seafaring race, this seems off.

(01-31-2025, 04:13 PM)jammi Wrote: I'll probably respond to this thread another time with some more substantial thoughts, but this little bit jumped out at me. That's not necessarily true.

Artifacts are mined in space, in both Omicron Gamma and Theta. In Gamma's Malvada Field and Theta's Napo Field, they are free floating. Bothof them also use the same kind of asteroid asset.

If you look closely at those rocks, they don't exactly look like natural formations; there are patterned surfaces, what appear to be shatter lines, followed by an internal rockface on the other surfaces. There's also a suspicious visual similarity to some of the detailing found on Nomad hives. The Artifacts are also artificial objects, not things that could be mined from naturally occurring deposits.

What that says to me, is in vanilla at least, this specific pairing - strange "Nomad" asteroids, and freefloating Artifact drops - likely means these are actually ancient debris fields. Not naturally occurring asteroids at all.

(01-31-2025, 04:05 PM)Stewgar Wrote: It's interesting that Sinclair mentioned "over 10 million years ago". I would have thought she'd make mention about "when we humans were barely single celled organisms" or something to that effect. 10 million feels a lot less than 100 or so on million years.

(01-31-2025, 05:21 PM)Stewgar Wrote: - DMK material used to build structure is the same as what the Nomads use
- DMK built the structures that the Nomads use in their hives and similar structures
- Nomads were possible builders for the DMK and used this material

Complicated Discovery Nomad Science Fiction

Matterweave, as we rationalized it, is the primary building material for DKV and Nomad structures. It can be arranged in any shape, but is commonly arranged in hexagonal crystals, as hexagons have very high structural strength and incredible tessellation properties. Matterweave is made from macroquantum superpositioning, that is quantum superpositioning on a significantly larger scale than fundamental particles, specifically on the atomic scale. This allows two atoms to be joined in a way that makes them functionally one atom, resulting in a super-lightweight, super-strong material. Repeat this process, and every DKV structure and Nomad structure can be considered as one singular atom despite it's scale. This is where the term Matterweave comes from, as it is in its most literal sense matter that has been woven together. Decay in these structures takes millions of years in a state of complete abandonment, as the superposition eventually decays into its constituent atoms without a conscious observer to stimulate the quantum nature of the superposition. Scorpion Gunboats are also made of Matterweave, but look different because they're made from human sacrifices that are not completely and entirely converted to Matterweave.