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AI against VI - Exile - 06-05-2009
Ever since the Harvesters began to do their thing, I've seen quite alot of people roleplaying as a machine. Sometimes with Virtual intellegence, and sometimes with Artificial intellegence. Now, the concept itself is a pretty cool thing, but my concern is that people don't quite know how an AI or a VI differ. I had to explain to several people on several occasions that an AI would 'be just like a normal person', not making noises such as Bleep blop or Err! But instead talk like a 'normal' Human being.
Now, when you go to Wikipedia and search for 'Artificial Intellegence', it gives you something different.
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Artificial Intelligence (AI) is the intelligence of machines and the branch of computer science which aims to create it. Major AI textbooks define the field as "the study and design of intelligent agents,"[1] where an intelligent agent is a system that perceives its environment and takes actions which maximize its chances of success.[2] John McCarthy, who coined the term in 1956,[3] defines it as "the science and engineering of making intelligent machines."[4]
The field was founded on the claim that a central property of human beings, intelligence—the sapience of Homo sapiens—can be so precisely described that it can be simulated by a machine.[5] This raises philosophical issues about the nature of the mind and limits of scientific hubris, issues which have been addressed by myth, fiction and philosophy since antiquity.[6] Artificial intelligence has been the subject of breathtaking optimism,[7] has suffered stunning setbacks[8] and, today, has become an essential part of the technology industry, providing the heavy lifting for many of the most difficult problems in computer science.[9]
AI research is highly technical and specialized, so much so that some critics decry the "fragmentation" of the field.[10] Subfields of AI are organized around particular problems, the application of particular tools and around longstanding theoretical differences of opinion. The central problems of AI include such traits as reasoning, knowledge, planning, learning, communication, perception and the ability to move and manipulate objects.[11] General intelligence (or "strong AI") is still a long term goal of (some) research.[12]
Basicly, Wiki says that AI's are just like VI's, programmed to execute certain tasks and nothing else. Right?
So, my question is; What then -is- the actual difference between Artificial and Virtual intellegence, and how would it affect Discovery roleplay if one decided to roleplay as an AI or VI?
AI against VI - Dusty Lens - 06-05-2009
My understanding is that VI is little more than a sophisticated user interface device. The underlying platform exists at varying degrees of sophistication but lacks the mechanisms of self determination. You can interface with the device in a fashion that can suggest autonomic thought and behavior, but it's simply reacting to you in a way that denotes intelligence.
Another defining qualifier between the two is that an AI can operate outside of a certain set of parameters, while a VI cannot. If you asked an AI to make you toast it'll go about the task (or simply go about killing all humans, as is often the case). If you ask a VI Liberty Dreadnought atmosphere maintenance program to stop yammering on about bacteria buildup in J tube junction 14 and to make you some toast it will be unable to give you a hand, as making toast falls outside of its underlying programming.
Actually. Nevermind. An AI is a machine which kills all humans.
There we go.
AI against VI - .:Mongoose:. - 06-05-2009
I think AI has the ability to learn new things and make its own decisions. Bit like skynet in terminator which became self aware
AI against VI - darthbeck - 06-05-2009
and dusty said everything worth being said.
again.
AI against VI - pchwang - 06-05-2009
I concur with Dusty.
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AI against VI - Montezuma/Kukulcan - 06-05-2009
Virtual inteligence is a simualtion of inteligent though, but only a simulation, it cannot actually think.
Artificial inteligence can think for its self, it is more than a computer simulation, it can think and respond to its invironment in ways not governed by a program.
At least, thats what i think!
AI against VI - eodas2 - 06-05-2009
Don't think it's truly important. Let them call whatever they want.
In a few years we'll discover H-fuel propulsion in space is a totally silly thing but so what.
AI against VI - Fletcher - 06-05-2009
AI will learn how to do itself within its learning programming, as stated in the movie Stealth you cannot tell an AI "Learn this, but don't learn that". Its always speculated that AI will overthrow humanity since it may perceive it as its own enemy, and that of the planet.
While VI, to my limited knowledge is a AI that has learned the boundaries and is able to learn like a normal human, but within a limit. At least that is to my understanding.
Quick question, in RP my Sentinel was a AI, but then got overloaded with personalities of its victims personal logs and 'personified' itself. Is this an AI, or VI? Or something else?
AI against VI - Primus Avatar - 06-05-2009
' Wrote:My understanding is that VI is little more than a sophisticated user interface device. The underlying platform exists at varying degrees of sophistication but lacks the mechanisms of self determination. You can interface with the device in a fashion that can suggest autonomic thought and behavior, but it's simply reacting to you in a way that denotes intelligence.
Dusty is right.
' Wrote:Actually. Nevermind. An AI is a machine which kills all humans.
There we go.
This is also true, AI is way more superior, and humans are to be considered as cattle muahhahahah
AI against VI - batman009 - 06-07-2009
well i dont know about that, that seems to farfetch for now.. so who ever is going to make those AI?
will we be stupd enough to create someone better than us? o well someone somewhere there is.
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