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Pirate IDs.... - Guest - 07-19-2009

Quote:Pirate ID

Pilot carrying this ID is an independent Pirate of the Sirius sector, who:

* Can demand credits or cargo from traders and unallied smugglers or factions

* Can engage pirates, terrorists and lawfuls within their Zone of Influence


* Can fulfill unlawful bounty contracts

* Can trade and escort smugglers

* Can ally with unlawfuls, mercenaries, and freelancers

* Cannot ally with any lawfuls

* Cannot use any ship with more than 3,600 cargo capacity except for the Pirate Train

* Cannot land on any lawful bases across Sirius except for Zoner bases

I shall use the Generic Pirate ID as an example....


Look, lately I have been discussing this with a few people, all these discussions have led to the same result.

The IDs of pirates need to be changed....

Right now, people use these IDs as a free pvp ticket, Pirates are people who , ill quote
Quote: Pirate ID

Pirates and Lane Hackers spend their time waiting outside of trade lanes to catch unsuspecting Traders and force them to pay a toll or demand their cargo. Pirate Role Players often have some swanky accent or shout AVAST at ships which enter their cunning traps, although this old-fashioned pirate-talk is technically OoRP itself.


Now, this line here :
Quote:
* Can engage pirates, terrorists and lawfuls within their Zone of Influence

Is the real problem.

See, people look at this..say "Lol! Ill go shoot lawfuls nao :3" and so they do....No, that is not what pirates do, the pirates may attack millitary targets to cause a distraction, but the everday 6pm lolraid on NY is just....sorry but its oorp by itself.



The ID needs to be changed, to fit its name: the PIRATE ID, not the TERRORIST ID.
Terrorists attack lawfuls in order to get their point across, pirates run.



Change


* Can engage pirates, terrorists and lawfuls within their Zone of Influence


To this:


* Can engage other pirates and terrorists within their Zone of Influence. May attack lawfuls only in self-defense



Please, let's discuss, and...yeah.
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Pirate IDs.... - teschy - 07-19-2009

It's not the ID, it's the people. I suppose you expected that. Well, your should realize that by * Can engage pirates, terrorists and lawfuls within their Zone of Influence , it doesn't mean they can freely do so. They still either need a bounty, or some real roleplay reason. Otherwise, you cannot tell, and it applies to most of the other IDs, such as smuggler, freelancer, mercenary, trader and slaver.


Pirate IDs.... - Elsdragon - 07-19-2009

It would fix this shiz. the Daily Denied Lolraid is just too much...........lolboats,Xeno IMG bombers,ANd Order with magma hammers OH MY


Pirate IDs.... - Guest - 07-19-2009

Beleive me, I do not see pirates in NY pirating...99% are shooting lawfuls.


Pirate IDs.... - teschy - 07-19-2009

' Wrote:ANd Order with magma hammers OH MY

Really now, don't you know those are sold on Toledo ?


Pirate IDs.... - AJBeast - 07-19-2009

Hrm , I can't see much of a problem the way it is now. Foolish indie pirates decide to lolwut themselves into an enemy armada and get their heads shot off. Temporary inconvinience really.

On the other hand , the Pirate ID does look like it provides way too much freedom, on paper at least. I can see how it can be annoying for lawfulls and pirates alike to have to shoot down countless idiots per day...

Its a bit sad that "indie" pirates dont seem to follow the rules of common sense. The fact that they arent affiliated to anyone should be even more of a factor into their playstyle, not having anyone to rely on and all...


Pirate IDs.... - Guest - 07-19-2009

' Wrote:It would fix this shiz. the Daily Denied Lolraid is just too much...........lolboats,Xeno IMG bombers,ANd Order with magma hammers OH MY

Wont work against lolwutters.

But Xenos, no, Xenos are terrorists, its what they do.


Pirate IDs.... - jammi - 07-19-2009

This suits my purposes just fine, seeing as the Buccaneers leg it when the law arrives anyway. but I get the feeling this will be a hamper on some people's RP. While some may RP as cowardly profiteers (myself one of them) others won't, and may represent more blazen types.

Something needs to be done to stop nightly invasions, but making attacking the law sanctionable isn't the way to go about it. Look for different wording, or simpily get ingame and help school those who abuse in the ways of the true pirate.


Pirate IDs.... - Guest - 07-19-2009

We need another ID. Pirate IDs are for PIRATES.

Revolutionaries IDs (the unlawful type of Vigilantes) maybe?


Pirate IDs.... - Elsdragon - 07-19-2009

It wasnt just a xeno Indie, It was Xeno IFF IMG bomber Pirated IDed