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Battleships- a solution - frozen - 09-02-2009
Discovery offers players the oppurtunity to fly capital ships, something which the vanilla version of Freelancer did not support. However, taking the recent months' events into consideration, i wish to propose a very simple (yet kind of big) change for discovery.
What is the community's thoughts on making battleships faction only, allowing independant players to fly battlecruiser and anything smaller than that, thus allowing to upgrade battleships significantly with huge armour HP, and bigger shields, and more turret slots (about 4-8 more slots, depending on bs class [light, medium, heavy])
take into consideration, this:
1. It will help reduce the capital ship spam from "lolwutting" independants.
2. It will promote the idea for independants to join factions and rise in ranks by actively contributing to the factions and thus getting access to fly the faction's shared battleship after reaching a certain rank.
3. It will allow the development team to tweak battleships further. for example, giving them a bigger armour boost will prolong battleship vs battleship, or battleship vs any other ship class fights (one of the things which many people complained about how battleships still dont last long enough in fights)
4. making them faction only will allow the battleships to become much more unique, and give independant players to fill the other roles by flying different class ships- Fly a cruiser and act as a long range bombardlment platform, or fly a gunship to act as an anti fighter/anti bomber vessel to counter the enemy's bomber squads. in other words, allowing more diveristy in fleet battles, instead of the usual "4 bs vs 20 bombers, fight over" situation.
5. Players will have to take extra care not to screw up when flying their factional battleship, so that they do not "tarnish" the reputation of the faction.
2. It will promote the idea for independants to join factions and rise in ranks by actively contributing to the factions and thus getting access to fly the faction's shared battleship after reaching a certain rank.
3. It will allow the development team to tweak battleships further. for example, giving them a bigger armour boost will prolong battleship vs battleship, or battleship vs any other ship class fights (one of the things which many people complained about how battleships still dont last long enough in fights)
4. making them faction only will allow the battleships to become much more unique, and give independant players to fill the other roles by flying different class ships- Fly a cruiser and act as a long range bombardlment platform, or fly a gunship to act as an anti fighter/anti bomber vessel to counter the enemy's bomber squads. in other words, allowing more diveristy in fleet battles, instead of the usual "4 bs vs 20 bombers, fight over" situation.
5. Players will have to take extra care not to screw up when flying their factional battleship, so that they do not "tarnish" the reputation of the faction.
Please vote, and please DO give a reasoning for your voting, no mindless one liner posts (which i will make sure dusty removes, if you persist on posting)
Battleships- a solution - Tenacity - 09-02-2009
Voted that we make them restrictable by factions, but allow well known independents to use them with permission from the faction.
I think we need to apply this to the order carrier too though, it's the most spammed ship type in this mod -_-
Battleships- a solution - Death.RunningVerminator - 09-02-2009
Yup, something should be done about the lolcapships.
OLOL! I KEEL U!
Battleships- a solution - El Nino - 09-02-2009
Voted for #2, Quite clearly we need to restrict battleships for faction use more or less. There are some cases when an indy might fly it but that should by far be the default case.
I currently operate an Indy Battleship. I still held no reserve to make them faction only. There should be some exceptions, but only about 10-20% of all battleships should be ever outside of factions.
Battleships- a solution - Exile - 09-02-2009
Depends on what you mean by factions realy. Official, unofficial, liked, disliked. If it's for officials only, then I wouldnt know realy. Could work out bad, could work out good. But if it's for official as well as unofficial, I predict a large number in unofficial factions in the next few months.
@Jure. Option 2 seems like favorism to me. 'Good and well known Rpers'. Who'll be the judge of what's that?
Battleships- a solution - frozen - 09-02-2009
Dont get me wrong. i have an independant battleship. hell, i have a cap 8 juggernaut with 16 different turrets as the flagship for Armoury and Co. its completely pointless in PVP, since the turrets are a mix of primaries, secondaries, mortars, pulses and razors in random places, but in terms of RP, the ship has been refurbished as a showroom for the arms trade.
but if the restriction of battleships to faction only gives us an oppurtunity to remove the "lolcap" spam as we call it, why not? it promotes players to join factions to become eligible to fly battleships, and also gives the dev team the chance to truly upgrade the ships to what they "should" be.
EDIT: this would include official factions only. if it included unofficial, we're back to square one, really.
Battleships- a solution - Unseelie - 09-02-2009
I believe the judge will be the Factions themselves. The official factions, mind, who have these ships, and fly with the indies.
Though, of course, this smacks of faction right five, and I doubt it will gain any serious support.
Battleships- a solution - RonG777 - 09-02-2009
Is there a way that this could be done here but still have the option for other servers to still play with battle ships? . .
What I mean is , don't make all battle ships an 'Admin given ship' in the next mod. A lot of other servers out there (PVP, RP) still let anyone buy a battle ship and play it . . .
don't lock all the battleships on the Admin base . . (that's what I meant) :)
Battleships- a solution - Exsiled_one - 09-02-2009
Number 2. I'ld vote for no1 but there are some great indy rpers that would be cutt off from joy then.
not more explanation is needed, the author said it all
Battleships- a solution - Ceoran - 09-02-2009
My bs has been granted by the 101st when they were the only ones to decide about outcast capital ships, so I guess it's obvious what I voted for.
edit for not making it a one-liner:
When I joined Disco it worked that way, and that's exactly the point: It worked. And I'm sure it will work again. The freedom to play whatever you want to is the one thing, but as long as there are people like we have them now it's kinda ruining the fun for the other players.