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Top 3 things that make RP impossible - masternerdguy - 10-24-2009
Ok, I am just gonna throw this list out there of the top ways RP is messed up.
- LAG LAG LAG!!!!
- "I can't speak english"
- "I didn't know there were pvp rules, I swear"
- "OMG WHATS ZA CHEEEPEST BATTLESJIP"
Ok, the first one is the ultimate killer. Imagine you are a trader with a ping of 250. You come across someone with a ping of 40 hellbent on RPing as a pirate to you. He fires a cruise disruptor at you and, from his perspective you stop, but from yours you are still going. Then you make it to a place and dock (yes! I have seen this happen!) and suddenly you dissapear from his view.
Another weird little thing happens on a laggy server: NPC bypassing. If your ping is more than 400 NPCs may simply stop registering allowing you to move freely. Also, there is the ghost death where you randomly die and you realise someone just killed you 3 systems away.
But those are not mainly RP issues, but what happens when RP ends? PVP:crazy:. If you don't know the pirate is ransoming you due to lag, you keep going and he will not get a response. He assumes RP has ended and kills you. But there's a twist! That little bit of pvp has put your connection over the edge and you disconnect.
Language Troubles
Two kinds of people say they can't speak english. Power traders and people who genuinely can't. Unfortunately, if he is not going to talk to you, you can't differentiate. So, what do you do? You end up either letting them go blowin them away anyhow.
The problem is that no matter if you speak english or not, its an excellent way to dodge many pirates who simply let people like this go. Also, they might assume that since they don't understand you and you just CDed them, that they can engage with no notice and blow you away.
The server rules are always in english, so if they don't speak english then they are not going to know most of them.
PVP Blues
Have any of these happened to you?
- Got killed as a level 10 for no reason
- Killed a level 10 for no reason
- Engaged without notice
- Got engaged without notice
- Similair stuff
Also, you get people who use a proxy and make characters just to kill random people.
Finally, the OORPness of most pvp is truly staggering. I have seen a corsair sit outside of planet erie and ransom EVERYONE who passed through there for over 15 minutes before an LSF Battleship came into view and he ran.
Battleships
Battleships are supposed to be the epitemy of roleplay, powerful fleet vessels that are more of a threat than an actual combat craft. Boasting powerful shields and immensely overpowered guns, they can tear up pretty much anything in no time.
But instead of roleplaying with them, they get used as lolwut money makers, lolwut permenant sentry guns, and lolwut overkill devices.
Have you ever been to omicron alpha? There are more battleship pilots than sabre pilots. Its amazing really. And most of them are indies.
Indie cap ship pilots. nuff said.
Top 3 things that make RP impossible - jxie93 - 10-24-2009
Yes. The wall of text sums up the current situation in Disco.
Unfortunately, there is very little we can do to improve it.
Top 3 things that make RP impossible - masternerdguy - 10-24-2009
' Wrote:Yes. The wall of text sums up the current situation in Disco.
Frankly, there is very little we can do to improve it.
but there is
- fix the server lag
- make it an english-only server
- see above and add a lock on all pvp below level 29
- make battleships 10x more expensive and so only faction members have e
Top 3 things that make RP impossible - Sprolf - 10-24-2009
1: People from all over the world play here.
It's based in Europe. If you're in Australia, you're not getting good lag no matter what magic Cannon works.
2: It is.
3: Cannon would have to work to make this happen, and he's needed elsewhere. In the meanwhile, know that it's a sanctionable offense, so crunch some keys if you don't like it.
4: Then characters would be corrupted.
Top 3 things that make RP impossible - jxie93 - 10-24-2009
' Wrote:but there is
- fix the server lag
- make it an english-only server
- see above and add a lock on all pvp below level 29
- make battleships 10x more expensive and so only faction members have e
1. server lag depends on your location in relation to the server
2. easier said than done, so far no one has a solution, you can't stop them from playing on Disco
3. maybe, but FL engine's capabilities are limited
4. i agree
Top 3 things that make RP impossible - masternerdguy - 10-24-2009
' Wrote:1. server lag depends on your location in relation to the server
2. easier said than done, so far no one has a solution, you can't stop them from playing on Disco
3. maybe, but FL engine's capabilities are limited
4. i agree
FLHook supports preventing pvp below a certain level.
Top 3 things that make RP impossible - Aoyagi - 10-24-2009
I agree that RPing is sometimes pretty difficult, but that's how it works I guess. We have 'lolwuts', we have an idiot who's DoSing the server. Bear with it.
Top 3 things that make RP impossible - Barrier - 10-24-2009
Instead of ranting, I think you should try to look on the bright side.
1. Yes there's lag, but there's also a larger amount of slots (200) available. There are also the other servers, although they are not as full as the original one.
2. Ahh, and I thought everyone was finished with the issue. The decision was, I believe, to have some target practice with the foreign ooRPers, because those who don't speak English well but do want to RP have a dictionary nearby.
3. That would not work. Many people don't want to become a high level to PvP (after RP). The bright side is that there aren't many people doing that, and even if you have been killed in your lv5-29 ship, I don't think you lose a lot except the time that it will take you to start your journey again. (Yes I have been killed in my Starflea in NY, but I paid little attention because I re-spawned really close to the place of my death)
4. Now on that I do agree with you, cap ships -should- be faction-only, and only in high ranks. Although making them more expensive is pointless.
Top 3 things that make RP impossible - masternerdguy - 10-24-2009
what we need to do to fix the lag is turn flserver.exe into a cloud computing program. I remember canoon was talkin bout splitting the server between 2 systems, so theoretically it could be done.
Top 3 things that make RP impossible - darthbeck - 10-24-2009
' Wrote:Battleships
Battleships are supposed to be the epitemy of roleplay, powerful fleet vessels that are more of a threat than an actual combat craft. Boasting powerful shields and immensely overpowered guns, they can tear up pretty much anything in no time.
But instead of roleplaying with them, they get used as lolwut money makers, lolwut permenant sentry guns, and lolwut overkill devices.
Have you ever been to omicron alpha? There are more battleship pilots than sabre pilots. Its amazing really. And most of them are indies.
Indie cap ship pilots. nuff said.
And battleships are not the best thing to roleplay in. They may be the biggest ship's in discovery, But that has no effect on your roleplay. I am sure that my roleplay in a battleship would be the same as it is in a cruiser, and that should go for all discovery players.
And making ships more expensive will solve NO PROBLEMS.