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Freelancer Scale... - Lancelot9 - 04-07-2010
Is it possible for the modders to reduce the size of the models? Freelancer scale is ridiculously out of proportion. Ships should be a tenth of the size that they are.
I can imagine it would be a pain to do though.
Freelancer Scale... - Jinx - 04-07-2010
simple answer - "no"
you forget that with sizing things down, you also need to adjust every other aspect of the game...
- shipspeed
-ship strafespeed
- projectile speed
- weaponranges
- trading
you wanne do all that AND balance it? -
Freelancer Scale... - teschy - 04-07-2010
' Wrote:simple answer - "no"
you forget that with sizing things down, you also need to adjust every other aspect of the game...
- shipspeed
-ship strafespeed
- projectile speed
- weaponranges
- trading
you wanne do all that AND balance it? -
Yeah, they can barely cope with what we have >_>.
Freelancer Scale... - Lancelot9 - 04-07-2010
Fair point.
Would the following not work without any imbalance?
Proportionate downsizing:
Weapon ranges (excluding CDs)
Projectile Speed (excluding CDs)
Ship speed (non cruise)
Strafe Speed
No downsizing:
Cruise speed
CD range
CD speed
In these cases trading need not be affected, and combat mechs should remain the same.
I do see that this would create a wildly different set of numbers that people may not be used to though.
Freelancer Scale... - Jinx - 04-07-2010
it does not work proportionate, cause balance scaling is not proportionate.
lets say - you scale everything down to 10% ( everything but maybe stations and planets / suns )
speed being 10% of what we have now, size, too - but size and speed don t scale along in a parallel line. - maybe the appropriate size is 10% - but the appropriate speed is 13% to keep up the balance.
furthermore, with more "space" - it is inevitable that traderoutes suddenly become 10 times longer. - however... increasing the profit by 10 times doesn t fix that problem - as a route is not only A to B, but in the current version rather a twisted pathway.
in short, having a realisticly scaled game is nice - but .... after all, it is just a feature.
it does not affect the gamestyle or gameplay much. its like a medium resolution texture and a high end resolution texture on a model. - at first you re totally thrilled about the high end one, but after playing the game - and focussing on the gameplay itself, you wouldn t care at all... especially when you realize that you don t pay much attention to it.
i dare say - many players have switched off t heir transition scripts ( which also is just a feature ) - many players prefer quickdocking to a docking sequence, even if they re not under attack. etc.
if it was easy to achieve, i d be all for it... b ut since its almost a total conversion of the whole gameworld, its really too much trouble for what we can possibly get.
Freelancer Scale... - Blaze - 04-07-2010
If it really bothers you that much maybe we can increase the size of planets?
Freelancer Scale... - Lancelot9 - 04-07-2010
I'm convinced!
' Wrote:If it really bothers you that much maybe we can increase the size of planets?
Well then you would have another issue - the solar systems wouldn't be large enough. Either way it is all a mess. And the cost-benefit doesn't really add up.