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Possible Events - Elrainn - 05-23-2010
Alright, Everyone's having a blast with this event. So here's what I'm proposing, even if it is a lot of work on the admin team:P
Once every 2-3 weeks, we have a cycle of separate server events.
Slot 1: GRN vs. BAF
Slot 2: Outcast vs. Corsair
Slot 3: KNF/KSP vs. BD/GC (The reason this is not just police is because the KNF are no longer at war with anyone, and don't have much to do outside of their house and keeping the peace.)
Slot 4: LN vs. RM
Slot 5: Order vs. (Alternating Nomads/Bounty Hunters Guild Core)
Slot 6: BPA vs. (Alternating Mollies/Gaians)
Slot 7: LPI vs. (Alternating LH & LR/Xenos)
Slot 8: RFP vs RH/Bundsch
Slot 9: GRP vs (Alternating Maquis & Council/Maquis & Brigands & UC)
At the moment I can't think of anymore, if anyone has any more ideas for slots feel free to post them.
Now, each event would last for the same duration as this one, about 2 days, and the event itself would only occur once every 2-3 weeks. Restarts would be available, although only balanced ones. Like I doubt the KNF would have a battleship to fight a swarm Fighters Bombers and Gunboats, although bringing a few Destroyers into the mix would be understandable.
I know this would put a lot of work on the admin team, but everyone would enjoy it, and I really think it should be implemented, everyone loves this one, why not continue the fun, just re-skinned.
Discuss.
Possible Events - Fletcher - 05-23-2010
I've always been pro for separate server methods for large events, usually the ones circling around PvP since randoms and interruptions would be far less likely.
Main problem is players and their characters, ships setups and some other minute details.
This method also provides more stability via it being separate from the main server, making it smoother overall.
I am for this, but we'll need to learn lessons from the current GRN KNF event.
Possible Events - Death.RunningVerminator - 05-23-2010
I agree, and in fact i was just about to bring this up before i found this thread.
:P
Possible Events - Hawkwings - 05-23-2010
One thing to point out is that we should only have one event going on at a time. It would spread people out too much if we had multiple happening.
I am against the idea of only having one of these events every two or three weeks. I think the event server should be up every weekend, starting Friday and ending Monday. It'll free up slots on the RP server, and it's a whole lot of fun too.
And I very much support huge police vs criminals events. For those though, we'd also have to do some trader restarts.
Possible Events - Cat - 05-23-2010
Although I like the idea, I have to say that organising different events every week would be quite a hard work for the admins. Even those restarts take much time to create. You need to fix rep, balance equipment, set a base, etc. It is tiresome sometimes, even if you use IONCROSS char editor (I tried it long ago in singleplayer). Even if the server is to be online every weekend, maybe one event can last longer, so as not to overburden people with work.
Anyway, that's my own opinion. Feel free to criticise it. I am not an admin, so I don't fully know all peculiarities. But again, the idea seems good to me.
By the way, I don't know whether the admins edit restarts with IONCROSS or somehow else. Maybe it's harder than it seems.
Possible Events - Bobthemanofsteel - 05-23-2010
I don't think it necessarily has to be run by the admins.
Just keep that in mind.
Possible Events - Implosion - 05-23-2010
The concept of this events is indeed awesome.
We should have one every weekend >.>
By the way,GRP vs UC?Good luck with that.
There's no reason they should kill each other.
Possible Events - Cawdor - 05-23-2010
' Wrote:Alright, Everyone's having a blast with this event. So here's what I'm proposing, even if it is a lot of work on the admin team:P
Once every 2-3 weeks, we have a cycle of separate server events.
Slot 1: GRN vs. BAF
Slot 2: Outcast vs. Corsair
Slot 3: KNF/KSP vs. BD/GC (The reason this is not just police is because the KNF are no longer at war with anyone, and don't have much to do outside of their house and keeping the peace.)
Slot 4: LN vs. RM
Slot 5: Order vs. (Alternating Nomads/Bounty Hunters Guild Core)
Slot 6: BPA vs. (Alternating Mollies/Gaians)
Slot 7: LPI vs. (Alternating LH & LR/Xenos)
Slot 8: RFP vs RH/Bundsch
Slot 9: GRP vs (Alternating Maquis & Council/Maquis & Brigands & UC)
At the moment I can't think of anymore, if anyone has any more ideas for slots feel free to post them.
Now, each event would last for the same duration as this one, about 2 days, and the event itself would only occur once every 2-3 weeks. Restarts would be available, although only balanced ones. Like I doubt the KNF would have a battleship to fight a swarm Fighters Bombers and Gunboats, although bringing a few Destroyers into the mix would be understandable.
I know this would put a lot of work on the admin team, but everyone would enjoy it, and I really think it should be implemented, everyone loves this one, why not continue the fun, just re-skinned.
Discuss.
Why would people stay in the lanes to trade for their fighters and caps or even bother to think about an RP for em if they could spam them every weekend for free?
How would people who actually spent ages to get their fleet together feel about not being able to use it on such occasion - and other people just getting them like that?
I vote against it.
The current events make sense to me as no one really wants to own gallic stuff and the activity of KNF not being the best. And because of this story thing of course. Everything beyond that defeats the purpose of spending time with RP and earning cash - especially for casual players.
Possible Events - Hawkwings - 05-23-2010
Because on the RP server, your characters stay around, your ships stay around, and you can choose who you fly for, what you do, etc.
On this special events server, you are locked into a choice. And all your work disappears after a few days. And you have no chance of affecting actual RP events.
Possible Events - Carlos_Benitez - 05-23-2010
I'm personally very pro- the idea. However, I would say that I think this format is ONLY appropreate for a very narrow range of events (far fewer than is suggested.)
A full scale war between houses clearly works well. However, in order for these to be integratable into the RP of Discovery, they need to be relatively infrequent. (RPed as specific offensives, each with their own outcomes and aftermaths on the real RP server).
The next class of battles, I think, need a slightly different approach.
- Outcasts vs. Corsairs
- Zoners/Order vs. Nomads
- Order vs. BHG Core
- Outcasts vs. IMG
- Hessian/SCRA vs. Rhineland (attempted occupation of O7 or something?)
With these conflicts between organisations that have their own significant military forces, but on a smaller scale than Houses (referred to henceforth as Sub-houses) it seems to be entirely unrealistic that the forces present would be able to deploy, say, 5 battleships each, and replace them again and again (ie. get through 10 battleships an hour, like GRN/KNF have).
I therfore think that, for these conflicts, there should be no /restart faction_battleship function, and that perhaps one or two battleships could be admin-granted to the respective group leaders before the battle commences. This would reduce the number of battleships deployed, and redeployed, to a more realistic number to match the factions involved.
Alternatively or additionally, those who have been appointed battleship captains could agree to only deploy their ships say, once every hour, so when their battleship is killed they switch to another ship, and only re-deploy the battleship after enough time has passed that it doesnt look like an inplausable battleship spawnwar.
Then, the third class is dometic conflicts between Police and criminals, etc. In my view, spawning cruisers and battleships for these conflicts is entirely inappropriate, and should probably be limited to Fighters, Bombers and Gunboats. That said, the sheer number of people involved, even if all in fighters, could overload the plausible number these groups would have available. Increased numbers also means increased chance of it turning into a mosh pit. In my experience, fighter-based battles tend to get messy and slow if more than 10 per side are involved. I think it might be best if domestic conflicts such as LPI vs. Rogues/LH/Xenos, or RFP vs. LWB/Bundschuh be kept on the real RP server.
I also think that this format, though great, could be over used, and the event server could be in danger of turning into a pvp server where the scenery changes every few weeks.
I think it would be far better if these events where months apart, extensively RPed by the full-time RP members of the respective clans and factions in the run up, and aftermath, both on forums and in-game. I think these events should be RPed to the extent of having their stories and outcomes posted on the wiki, as specific facets of discovery's developing history. (like we remember the Battle of Trafalgar, or the Battle of Hastings). I also, much though I loved the GRN/KNF battles, dont think they should be allowed to go on for too long.
- Lets keep the battles realistic, but fun.
- Let's have extensive RP buildups and aftermaths, that make a real difference to the history of Sirius.
- Let's make every event special, and always keep people craving for more.
So, if, for the sake of argument, the BHG launched an offensive against the Order and launched a proper invasion of Omicron Minor, a BHG-Battleship could be placed near the Omicron-Delta hole in Omicron Minor in a DSupdate before the event, for the BHG forces to be based from. After the event, the station-ship could be moved/deleted in another automatic update.
Not sure how much work it would take to do this, but it would be amazing.:P