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New ID concept - Shush Muppet - 08-21-2010
ORIGINAL POST:
So I had this idea while reading a thread about Outcasts in Liberty and other debates on ZOI and such.
Why not create a "Exiled Pirate ID" that can only be given via admin to pirate players as a sort of FR5 that declairs the holder to be just that: a pirate that was exiled from their faction and stripped of rank for insubordination. They keep their faction ship and guns, but are rep-hacked to be slightly unfriendly to all official pirate factions, but slightly friendly to Freelancer IFFs and only allowed to ally with the Independent Pirate and Merc IDs?
This would allow official factions to show which indy-pirates uphold the faction's standards and code, and which indy-pirates do not represent the faction. Thus, negative behavior on the part of an indy-pirate that has been exiled (FR5'd) does not bear RP consequences for official factions.
This might also allow official faction leaders to decide their ZOI in RP, rather than making them official rules that carry sanctions.
Thoughts?
EDIT: Current idea revision
"Exile ID": ID that can only be given via admin to players in serious breach of official faction conduct, at the request of official faction leaders (FR5).
Rephack- Unfriendly to all except Freelancer, Zoner, and Junker IFFs, which remain at neutral standing.
May only ally with Independent Pirates, Smugglers, Freelancers, Mercs, Zoners, and Junkers.
Tech chart- Only civilian ships and guns.
New ID concept - Dusty Lens - 08-21-2010
The idea is, honestly, a rather good one. The issue I have with it is that our server would spit out a large number of persons who would opt to strive for the ID as a means of forming a large pirate alliance employing preferential and "out of region" equipment for that extra roleplay advantage.
If you catch my drift.
New ID concept - Not Espi - 08-21-2010
if we ever get to a point where we have so many fr5'd people that we need to give them a custom id ...
we need to start looking for other solutions.
New ID concept - Shush Muppet - 08-21-2010
' Wrote:The idea is, honestly, a rather good one. The issue I have with it is that our server would spit out a large number of persons who would opt to strive for the ID as a means of forming a large pirate alliance employing preferential and "out of region" equipment for that extra roleplay advantage.
If you catch my drift.
Alright... let's see...
What if the player recieving the ID didn't get to keep their faction guns? They keep the ship, but all faction weapons are stripped and considered red-celled, that way they couldn't re-mount weapons from faction ships they shoot down? They'd have to refit their ship with whatever civvy weapons they could scrounge from Freeports. Plus they'd have precious few other allies, leaving them in a similar situation to the Corsairs *cough*. Only allowed to ally with other Exiles, Indy-pirates, and Mercs.
Does that fix the problem, or would anything over the size of a gunboat also need to be stripped? And would that kill the indy-player's right to RP?
New ID concept - Shush Muppet - 08-21-2010
' Wrote:if we ever get to a point where we have so many fr5'd people that we need to give them a custom id ...
we need to start looking for other solutions.
I'm simply trying to come up with a creative alternative punishment that is simple to implement and boosts RP.
In short, this is my "other solution" attempt to avoid more rule sanctions.
New ID concept - Akura - 08-21-2010
' Wrote:I'm simply trying to come up with a creative alternative punishment that is simple to implement and boosts RP.
If someone is punished, it's because they've broken the RP.
Rarely is it ever good RP, worth continuing, if it is, it's SRPed.
New ID concept - Shush Muppet - 08-21-2010
' Wrote:If someone is punished, it's because they've broken the RP.
Rarely is it ever good RP, worth continuing, if it is, it's SRPed.
The problem we keep running into is that for every new form of abuse, we add more rules that can result in sanctions. Thus more players get reported; some are genuine problem cases, while others are simply malicious reports to get others in trouble. That is complicated and causes irritation.
We need something different. Something within RP that carries consequences. Something that bites hard, but allows the player to keep playing, and forcing them to deal with the very real consequences of their actions.
New ID concept - Akura - 08-21-2010
' Wrote:The problem we keep running into is that for every new form of abuse, we add more rules that can result in sanctions. Thus more players get reported; some are genuine problem cases, while others are simply malicious reports to get others in trouble. That is complicated and causes irritation.
We need something different. Something within RP that carries consequences. Something that bites hard, but allows the player to keep playing, and forcing them to deal with the very real consequences of their actions.
No more rules.
New ID concept - Shush Muppet - 08-21-2010
' Wrote:No more rules.
I think you missed my point...
I am not advocating more rules. You can read it right there in that quote of mine you posted. I am advocating a punishment ID that can be used to demonstrate the gravity of RP actions to misguided players, rather than sanctioning them constantly.
New ID concept - Shush Muppet - 08-21-2010
Oh c'mon! Nobody has any tweaking suggestions?
Nobody?
You're just gonna shoot holes in my rubber raft without throwing me a line?...