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Freighter Discussion - Prysin - 03-31-2011
Freighters, they are the backbone of a nation. They can perform any task, are the platforms needed to take the big leap from a civillian ship to a large trade and commerce vessel. They are agile (relatively) and fast.... BUT in my opinion they have a fatal flaw.
YES freighters can be potetially awesome vessels of destruction, like the Corsair Correro or the Rogue Bactarian. Or hopelessly weak as the Bretonian Clydesdale and the X-wing...
Freighters, well they used to be more popular, now their almost died out. Personally i find the Camara a brilliant vessel. Lots of cargo compared to price, slim profile and decent agility. It has quite a punch to it if outfitted correctly, but still its weak.
Therefor i propose that all freighters get a buff.
The first issue i see is; huge shield but a bomber worth of shield batteries... often quite thick hull too but yet fighter/bombers have same amount of B/B.... Freighters should get some more, maybe an average of 20 more b/b (except repair ship ofcourse).
Anything LESS then 800 cargo is a freighter, so states the definition of the shipclass. Yet the biggest freighter cargohold is the dromedary with its 650 units... Shouldnt atleast a couple of them have like, 800 or 750 units of cargo?
Freighters are awesome when it comes to firepower, but their kinda doomed when it comes to defence.... a few exceptions can be found, but with a maximum of 20000 hull, whereas the weakest transport is 40000, and that transport doesnt even have 800 cargo.... They should get some more armour. A freighter as of now is a VHF with a heavy cargopod when it comes to stats and such....
Freighters has some imbalances too, like one or two can mount a razor, alot if not most can mount a CD. Then theres a few like camara, mule, rhino and garanchou who dont have a CD.... why? if like 80% of the freighters has one, why should a few ones lose the CD? Especially when its no solid reason behind it.
Freighter powercores are nice though and their shields are generous.... Agility vise their fine, i mean, their not meant to fight (for the most part), but meant to haul small ammounts of cargo at shorter distances...
In a sense, freighters are, to a degree, forgotten. Some are really expensive, like the dromedary. some are really really cheap like the garanchou.... just because they dont have 5k or more cargo doesnt mean their bad ships, but this seems to have been forgotten.
Freighter Discussion - Cond0r - 03-31-2011
So, what exactly was the main point of your post? Because I tried really hard and couldnt find it. What you did is scramble up some facts and put them all together in a few sentences while jumping from point a to point c, point b, and back to point a, all in one paragraph.
There are people who still use freighters even though they can afford more expensive ships. There are also people who fight VHF's in their freighters, like Zeb. They are fine as they are now.
' Wrote:They should get some more armour. A freighter as of now is a VHF with a heavy cargopod when it comes to stats and such....Not all of them. And after all, thats what they are supposed to be. A moderately small ship with some cargo space.
' Wrote:Freighters are awesome when it comes to firepower, but their kinda doomed when it comes to defence.... a few exceptions can be found, but with a maximum of 20000 hull, whereas the weakest transport is 40000, and that transport doesnt even have 800 cargo.... They should get some more armour.So you want them to have more armor, more cargo, and the same speed and agility. Yeah, sure, that wouldnt make any sense.
Freighter Discussion - Prysin - 03-31-2011
SUmmary:
Their stats should be a tad higher in terms of armour and b/b count
They should all have a CD slot
The definition of a freighter pr server rule is a ship with less then 800 cargo, yet biggest freighter cargo is 650.
The weakest transport has twice the hull of the strongest freighter. Even some VHF's have more hull then the strongest freighter, they could need some more, not alot but some more.
That is all
Freighter Discussion - Curios - 03-31-2011
Buff Correo, all turrets rank 5 please.
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Freighter Discussion - Boss - 03-31-2011
TheMasterElite and I were bored for several days (MONTHS ago, not sure if I still have my copy) and decided to come up with some algorithms to fix this.
We managed to come up with one that would work with the mining mod's price adjusting thing to make freighters more profitable by unit of volume than a larger transport.
Per trip a large ship still makes more money, but a freighter running cardamine would be netting around 16-17mil per round trip instead of 5 or 6. Large transport (4-5k) would still be in the 25-35mil range.
Barges, though, would become hideously inefficient.
Unless you unloaded them with Dromedaries. In which case you'd make something like 5 billion.
Freighter Discussion - AeternusDoleo - 03-31-2011
Freighters will get a speed buff come 4.86. That's enough of a perk to warrant their existance, especially in piracy. Once in cruise they'll be able to run circles around anything, and they'll be able to catch up to transports as well.
Full class 5 turreted Correo would be... dangerous, due to the Tizona turret (which is a better shieldbuster then the Transport type 1). On the other hand, Sairs can use any freighter - so grabbing a good civvy one would work too...
... I must think more on this...
Freighter Discussion - Curios - 03-31-2011
Civvy freighters are crap, Correo is ok, but need more cool turrets
Freighter Discussion - Prysin - 03-31-2011
dude i had a full tizzie correro with nukes and i made a corsair cruiser cry when we had a duel
alright the cruiser couldnt aim to save his life, but when a freighter can kill a cruiser shield in like 1-2 minutes.... uhm, correro is FAR from underpowered.
Its probably the most OP freighter around after the bactarian...
Freighter Discussion - Curios - 03-31-2011
This is the only freighter that have some love, because it's close to be ok. But not enough, so i didn't saw MANY correos. Hence i saw only 1-2 flying around. Xeno Grizzly was NP as well, sold it some time ago. Good for Xeno pirating and RP, but still. IF bomber showns up - you most probably die.
// But some shiny mind decided that Correo is too good with rank 5 turrets and nerfed all turrets to rank 4 rendering it useless except cases if you'r a real fan of that ship.
Freighter Discussion - Cond0r - 03-31-2011
' Wrote:IF bomber showns up - you most probably die.Thats supposed to happen, its a damn freighter.