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How to deal/RP with people who don't speak/poorly speak English - El_Vlado - 04-02-2011
I make this thread to find out how the community deals with this, as I've had a difficult time in this as of late. I have asked around but have had no constructive advice in this matter.
I have had previous encounters/have encounters/will have encounters where players understand hardly any English, and have to resort to their native tongue. However, for the purposes of general chat and RP, this makes it nearly impossible to interact with them besides communicating with armed force, instead through dialogue.
For example, as LPI Officer Law, I patrol Liberty space and enforce the laws of Liberty. I've seen people who don't know English smuggle contraband, use illegal weapons/vessels and other such breaches of law, that when I attempt to do Role Play as Officer Law, it totally fails because the suspect, person B, has no understanding of what I'm saying. Responses include: "What? Russua. No English. Espanol? Romania?" and so on and so forth.
Hence, many a time I have found myself pursuing somebody with say contraband who is speaking Russian to me, and I'm helpless feeling more than frustrated:(. Once, I had an 8 minute LPI pursuit, and was just about to destroy the ship when I luckily found a LNS member that spoke the language. That character afterwards co-operated, however only after someone has spoken to them in their language.
Resorting to armed force is of last resort for my character, and hence when I know they can't speak English and such, I feel sorry for them just to shoot them down - both morally as a person, and in conflict with my character. (I know, moral considerations in a game but thats how I am)
Now I know the Server Rules state that:
Quote:1. General Terms and Conditions
0.0 Be excellent to one another. Consider the people around you. Keep fair play in mind. It's a game and nothing is gained, or lost, save the experience. Credits can be re-earned. Ammunition replenished. If you become infuriated step away. If you make a mistake apologize. If you wish to remain in system after you die, or after someone has moved away, simply ask.
However:
Quote:3. Rules of Conduct
3.2 All messages in system chat must be in understandable English.
However does this mean that every person that I encounter, I should report, as they do not know/understand/speak fluent English? I feel in conflict between the two in what to do in terms of server rules. I'm considering them as a 'person', but they don't speak English. Besides server rules, I can't really do my character's role/role play, if they have no clue what I'm saying. Moreover, I feel somehow morally confronted when in such situations.
I only know how to speak 3 Languages: English, French and Serbo-Croatian. The rest I know bits and pieces, which makes me have to rely on a person who can speak x language (if they're online). Nor is there a copy/paste feature so I can use google translate, which could at least tell them that its an English-speaking server (This is not saying that I demand it, I merely note this as I have used it on some other areas of the internet/some other games).
Hence my question is, What should I do when confronted with a person who doesn't speak English/speaks a few words of English/etc?
Thank you for all who reply, as I appreciate the comments/help:)
Negative comments are not appreciated. If you have nothing constructive to say, don't say it.
How to deal/RP with people who don't speak/poorly speak English - horvat - 04-02-2011
Ask him are you RUS ((((:? If he replies positive you then just walk away. If not you can also walk away or blow him up. There is 95% chance he won't be able to find forums if he does he doesn't know english, so you are all good he can't report you. :lol:
How to deal/RP with people who don't speak/poorly speak English - Vladimir - 04-02-2011
Quote:How to deal with people who don't speak English
Blow them up.
How to deal/RP with people who don't speak/poorly speak English - El_Vlado - 04-02-2011
' Wrote:Ask him are you RUS ((((:? If he replies positive you then just walk away. If not you can also walk away or blow him up. There is 95% chance he won't be able to find forums if he does he doesn't know english, so you are all good he can't report you. :lol:
:)But that doesn't help him much and leaves him in a detrimental position. Plus I'm not treating him fairly by blowing him up anyway. And even if he is Rus, I don't know how to speak Russian so I would be just digging myself into a hole if I did so, as I'd have Cyrillic thrown at me in PM :(
How to deal/RP with people who don't speak/poorly speak English - Korny - 04-02-2011
Since acceptable english skills are required to play on this server, I'd go for that:
Quote:Blow them up.
How to deal/RP with people who don't speak/poorly speak English - ProwlerPC - 04-02-2011
I use a combination of 4 faction guns and 2 Codes on my forward hardmounts, a MR on my torp mount, and Nuke mines. Very effective at transmitting a message that is universally understood.
How to deal/RP with people who don't speak/poorly speak English - Akura - 04-02-2011
Improvise.
How to deal/RP with people who don't speak/poorly speak English - El_Vlado - 04-02-2011
Okay so blow them up so far seems to be the advice, which of course was my presumption. But what happened about being excellent to one another, considering other people and fair play in mind, when blowing them up?
Quote:1. General Terms and Conditions
0.0 Be excellent to one another. Consider the people around you. Keep fair play in mind. It's a game and nothing is gained, or lost, save the experience. Credits can be re-earned. Ammunition replenished. If you become infuriated step away. If you make a mistake apologize. If you wish to remain in system after you die, or after someone has moved away, simply ask.
Improvise, I tried that, however I'm yet to try and pretend to speak the language:laugh:
How to deal/RP with people who don't speak/poorly speak English - Camtheman - 04-02-2011
Quote:Since acceptable english skills are required to play on this server, I'd go for that:
QUOTEBlow them up.
Yeah, english really is a must...
Its not like the real world where you can use body language and stuff everyone understands regardless of cultural backgroud, but the internet is different....
How to deal/RP with people who don't speak/poorly speak English - Korny - 04-02-2011
' Wrote:Okay so blow them up so far seems to be the advice, which of course was my presumption. But what happened about being excellent to one another, considering other people and fair play in mind, when blowing them up?
Improvise, I tried that, however I'm yet to try and pretend to speak the language:laugh:
If they can't speak english, do you seriously think they'd bother creating a forum account and filing a sanction against you ?